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   Carlos E. R. to bad sector   
   Re: zypper versus YaST   
   23 Mar 18 01:34:02   
   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2018-03-22 21:42, bad sector wrote:   
   > On 22/03/2018 15:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:   
   >> On 2018-03-22 12:08, bad sector wrote:   
   >>> On 03/21/18 17:21, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>> On 2018-03-21 16:51, andrew.williams@t-online.de wrote:   
   >>>>> On Saturday, March 17, 2018 at 6:00:08 PM UTC+1, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2018-03-17 17:43, bad sector wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 17/03/2018 11:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2018-03-17 15:33, bad sector wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yast used to have another one too, one that said 'ignore all   
   >>>>>>> dependancy', it's been removed.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I don't remember that one. I doubt it existed.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What there is, is "ignore recommends", which is a different thing.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> If you have install-conflicts, Yast allows you to resolve them   
   >>>>> manually.  Three options are normally offered.   
   >>>>> One is "forget it"   
   >>>>> One is "Ignore this requirement"   
   >>>>> One is "Update software xxx to satisfy the requirement"   
   >>>>> (or words to that effect in each case!)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yes, that is so.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But you see, it is case by case decision, not a global and automatic   
   >>>> choice.   
   >>>   
   >>> Correct, there used to be a global "ignore all dependencies" button,   
   >>> seeing that one return would be OK. I for one wold like in addition an   
   >>> also global button that you set before beginning the process that says:   
   >>>   
   >>> "do NOT install packages with dependancy OR conflict issues".   
   >>   
   >> No, this is dangerous. An update could then install some files and not   
   >> some others and an unforeseen inconsistency results.   
   >   
   > It's exactly what yast gives you ANYWAY as an option under the conflict   
   > resolution dialogue's "do not install". Remember it's the subject UPDATE   
   > package that doesn't get installed, NOT the depends. What I'm suggesting   
   > is a global preset option to do EXACTLY THE SAME THING in that case   
   > without further interactivity. The reason I'd like this is that THAT'S   
   > what I do anyway: I nix problemaitc update packages but I have to do it   
   > in sometimes a hundred manual interventions.   
      
   Yes, but the safe option is to abort the entire operation, not to not   
   install some. Or better, to solve the conflicts correctly.   
      
   What you are doing is a partial update.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> I don't remember that button, but that it doesn't exist now is (almost   
   >> surely) intentional.   
   >>   
   >> If you remember what openSUSE version had that button I can verify it in   
   >> a virtual machine.   
   >   
   > That's ANOTHER button, it existed as opposed to my suggested one which   
   > doesn't yet. I would guess that the 11.x series still had it, or the   
   > 10.x.  It just offered "ignore depends" the same way that rpm does but   
   > there too it was a global preset.   
      
   I'll look.   
      
   --   
   Cheers,   
          Carlos E.R.   
      
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