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   Carlos E.R. to bad sector   
   Re: tw kernel 4.19.x   
   04 Jan 19 11:15:43   
   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 04/01/2019 04.52, bad sector wrote:   
   > On 1/1/19 3:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 01/01/2019 20.41, bad sector wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> i just updated my asus g73 and regardless of whether i try to boot   
   >>> 4.19.5-1 or 4.19.11-1 i get the same failure   
   >>>   
   >>> 70.005568 ipv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEVUP):wlp3s0: link is not ready   
   >>> 70.063822 ditto   
   >>>   
   >>> Why would what i think to be a network connection fault be an obstacle   
   >>> to booting?   
   >>   
   >> This seems to happen after booting, at the init phase. You should read   
   >> the logs.   
   >   
   >   
   > To me booting ends when I see a login prompt, but for argument's sake   
   > let's say it ends wheneeeeveeeer, the point being that the above type of   
   > CHICKENSHIT problem should NEVER be an obstacle to a usable system   
   > unless one WANTS internet (which is an administrative option as opposed   
   > to a dev prerogative) and even then it should be an obstacle only to   
   > internet connectivity.   
      
   Then you have to change the default and disable all services that depend   
   on network, and there are a few. Mind, that might not work out.   
      
      
   >    
   >   
   > I tried to install Leap-15 instead. Installed it 3 times and pissed   
   > around with trying to customize it over two days!  It always ended up   
   > failing to boot sooner than later.   
      
   Then you did some customization that you shouldn't...   
      
   > The nVidia driver seems to be one of   
   > a rich collection of possible isues so I'v given up on Leap too. I'll   
   > try the next TW snapshot although I'm begining to think that suse is   
   > aiming for 1st prize in unusable systems.   
   >   
   > Linux (suse included) used to be so neat, around 5.x you COULD still   
   > select just a 'minimal' system to install and prove booting before   
   > installing the rest, you would log in at a cLi prompt, then you COULD   
   > start graphics if you wanted any, and you could dd any installation to   
   > any partition of the same size and boot it after editing ony the / line   
   > in fstab. Now even booting which should be supreme KISS is so full of   
   > shit like unnecessary AND totally unwarranted graphics, uuids and   
   > scripts scattered all over the place that you could build a bughouse   
   > with all the chaff.   
      
   To trim the system that much you really need to know it inside out.   
      
   >    
      
   If you want a minimal system, use the minimal pattern.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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