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   Andrew to All   
   openSUSE-15.2-1 Initial Impressions   
   02 Jul 20 18:04:12   
   
   From: Doug@hyperspace.vogon.gov   
      
   OpenSUSE 15.2 became available at midday UTC today so I tried it on a   
   test machine, one previously running 15.1 with 3 additional   
   repositories: Packman, Libdvdcss and Mozilla-Test.   
   This machine boots from the Bios - not EFI - for historical reasons: I   
   replaced the old motherboard + processor + memory + onboard graphics a   
   few months ago.   
      
   On downloading it I saw that they are looking for Beta testers for 15.2,   
   rather strange because I thought this was the actual release version.   
   Maybe the message is a mistake.   
      
   I booted onto the new dvd so the next part is about the install process.   
   Previous levels have offered function keys where you can change various   
   settings such as Language, Keyboard, Input Source and so on.  Here you   
   can install from the DVD or over the 'net.  The rest has gone.  The   
   usual options of: Boot from Hard Disk, Install, Update and one other are   
   still there.   
   I chose Update and it failed to find my root partition.  Asking it to   
   show all partitions allowed me to select the correct one.  My suspicion   
   is that it wanted to pick things up from the EFI partition, just a guess.   
   Things which the Update process failed to handle which I had to do by   
   hand were:   
   - it said it would not be able to boot because the DVD was EFI and the   
   Hard Disk missing the EFI partition, telling it to boot from the MBR   
   using BIOS (would the /boot partition have been better?) fixed that   
   (mostly, as it turned out).   
   - a fair-sized list of packages where I had to keep the old one or   
   select the new one, this was pretty much everything from the Packman,   
   Libdvdcss and Mozilla-Test repositories mentioned at the top.   
   Firefox reverted from the new one to the ESR version this way, not a   
   disaster.   
   The Seamonkey version offered is old, I'll discuss this below.   
   I told it to install the Multimedia packages it listed from the standard   
   repositories, this did not go well.  More to that later.   
      
   Update.  No problems.   
      
   At the end it rebooted (I was distracted but heard the Beep and got   
   there before it got any further).  Telling it to boot into new level on   
   the hard disk failed, it could not find the EFI directory.  Removing the   
   DVD and rebooting had the desired effect.   
   At this point I added the Mozilla-test repository and then told it to do   
   the one-click update process for Multimedia, this added the other two   
   repositories but did not reinstall any software.  Multimedia is broken,   
   sound is fine but the pictures are not.   
      
   Now to Seamonkey.   
   The level which came with Leap 15.1 was 2.49.4, and this is the level   
   which is supplied with Leap 15.2 and is ancient, a ridiculous non-decision.   
   2.49.5 was released some time ago and worked fine from the Leap 15.1   
   Mozilla repository, it is also obsolete.   
   2.53.1 has been and gone (there were no levels between).   
   2.53.2 is what I was running from the Leap 15.1 Mozilla-test repository,   
   it is the current version and is also in the Leap 15.2 equivalent.  At   
   least the old 2.53.2 worked before I replaced it from the new Mozilla   
   Test.  This is all important because a fallback from 2.53.x to 2.49.x   
   basically kills the profile the first time you run the old version, I   
   have never tried going forward again, maybe it recovers.   
   Firefox would have had the same problem except that the versions   
   involved are all past the stage where the profile was reorganised.   
      
   Moving the Mozilla Seamonkey and Firefox packages forwards was a bit of   
   a pain, I had to force each package to install from the new repository,   
   a few clicks but it worked ok.   
      
   Multimedia is going to be a pain, there must be 30-50 packages involved   
   which need to be reinstalled from Packman and I'm not sure how to   
   identify them.   
      
   Oh, and there was another minor problem during the install process but   
   it is specific to my system: It told me that the nouveau 3d package is   
   experimental and did I really want it?  My old motherboard had nVidea   
   graphics, the new one AMD.  At least that side of things works in practice.   
      
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