From: Doug@hyperspace.vogon.gov   
      
   Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   > On 04/07/2020 11.24, Andrew wrote:   
   >> Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>> On 02/07/2020 18.04, Andrew wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Now to Seamonkey.   
   >>>> The level which came with Leap 15.1 was 2.49.4, and this is the   
   >>>> level which is supplied with Leap 15.2 and is ancient, a ridiculous   
   >>>> non-decision.   
   >>>   
   >>> You know, if you use Leap, that this is a conscious and intentional   
   >>> choice.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Multimedia is going to be a pain, there must be 30-50 packages   
   >>>> involved which need to be reinstalled from Packman and I'm not sure   
   >>>> how to identify them.   
   >>>   
   >>> Trivial. YaST: add the packman repo. In software module, switch to   
   >>> view packages from that repo. Then click on "switch system packages   
   >>> to that repo". Accept the changes.   
   >>>   
   >>> As always. Called "the packman switch".   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Thanks, that helped although I had to do things differently to get   
   >> them to work.  My original 1-Click update for Leap 15.2 had added two   
   >> other repositories (multimedia:apps and multimedia:libs) and that was   
   >> the cause of the grief.   
   >   
   > Well, I always disreccomend using 1-Click.   
   >   
      
   Agreed on that one.  There were a couple of sites which showed me how to   
   do the multimedia update for 15.2 and the one I used was not that accurate.   
      
   >   
   > ...   
   >   
   >> Now to Seamonkey.  Looking at the release announcements:   
   >> - 2.49.4 was released 4 Aug 2018   
   >> - 2.49.5 was released 4 Sep 2019, it made it to Mozilla-Test   
   >> - 2.53.1 was released 28 Feb 2020   
   >> - 2.53.2 was released 4 May 2020 and is current   
   >>   
   >> The openSUSE maintainer made contact with the Seamonkey "helpline" on   
   >> 3 March saying he had problems building 2.53.1, he then said the   
   >> suggestions had helped but it took until around 22 April before that   
   >> level made it to Mozilla-Test (it hit Tumbleweed around 4 March).   
   >>   
   >> 2.53.2 made it to Mozilla-Test within a reasonable period of time.   
   >>   
   >> All levels below the current one are unsupported and 2.49.4 fails to   
   >> render correctly on an ever increasing number of websites.  I don't   
   >> understand why the current level has not made it to the main update   
   >> repository at least.   
   >> I can understand the hesitancy with 2.53.1 - it had some "issues" -   
   >> but not with the levels before and after it.   
   >> 2.53.3 has been in Beta for just under 3 weeks now, maybe the official   
   >> version will make it to openSUSE Update for Leap 15.1 and 15.2.   
   >>   
   >> The first execution of a 2.53.x level "breaks" the profile for an   
   >> older level but I believe that applied to the parallel Firefox levels   
   >> as well.   
   >   
   > Yes, but the problem on your system upgrade was caused because of you   
   > not using the default or official version in 15.1.   
   >   
      
   Bearing in mind that the 15.2 Update process itself warned me about the   
   Seamonkey (and Firefox) downgrades, no harm was done to my profile.   
   That part worked fine, that particular machine is also my test machine.   
   Leap 15.1 should have moved to offer Seamonkey 2.49.5 some time around   
   October 2019, that was a complete no-brainer.  It is also now irrelevant.   
   Leap 15.2 should be offering a current level, not one from the start of   
   August 2018.  I can just about understand not rolling it out to Leap   
   15.1 but a 23-month-old browser in the new openSUSE level basically says   
   "abandoned" and Tristan M did all the necessary work for Tumbleweed 4   
   months ago.   
      
   oh, and "Suspend" now works with a Ryzen 3 system.  I'll have to play   
   around a bit there and see what else "now works" (blanking the screen   
   after n minutes inactivity?) but that is something which did not work   
   under 15.1.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)