From: Doug@hyperspace.vogon.gov   
      
   Andrew wrote:   
   > Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 04/07/2020 11.24, Andrew wrote:   
   >>> Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>> On 02/07/2020 18.04, Andrew wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Now to Seamonkey.   
   >>>>> The level which came with Leap 15.1 was 2.49.4, and this is the   
   >>>>> level which is supplied with Leap 15.2 and is ancient, a ridiculous   
   >>>>> non-decision.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >> ...   
   >>   
   >>> Now to Seamonkey.  Looking at the release announcements:   
   >>> - 2.49.4 was released 4 Aug 2018   
   >>> - 2.49.5 was released 4 Sep 2019, it made it to Mozilla-Test   
   >>> - 2.53.1 was released 28 Feb 2020   
   >>> - 2.53.2 was released 4 May 2020 and is current   
   >>>   
   >>> The openSUSE maintainer made contact with the Seamonkey "helpline" on   
   >>> 3 March saying he had problems building 2.53.1, he then said the   
   >>> suggestions had helped but it took until around 22 April before that   
   >>> level made it to Mozilla-Test (it hit Tumbleweed around 4 March).   
   >>>   
   >>> 2.53.2 made it to Mozilla-Test within a reasonable period of time.   
   >>>   
   >>> All levels below the current one are unsupported and 2.49.4 fails to   
   >>> render correctly on an ever increasing number of websites.  I don't   
   >>> understand why the current level has not made it to the main update   
   >>> repository at least.   
   >>> I can understand the hesitancy with 2.53.1 - it had some "issues" -   
   >>> but not with the levels before and after it.   
   >>> 2.53.3 has been in Beta for just under 3 weeks now, maybe the   
   >>> official version will make it to openSUSE Update for Leap 15.1 and 15.2.   
   >>>   
   >>> The first execution of a 2.53.x level "breaks" the profile for an   
   >>> older level but I believe that applied to the parallel Firefox levels   
   >>> as well.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, but the problem on your system upgrade was caused because of you   
   >> not using the default or official version in 15.1.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Bearing in mind that the 15.2 Update process itself warned me about the   
   > Seamonkey (and Firefox) downgrades, no harm was done to my profile. That   
   > part worked fine, that particular machine is also my test machine.   
   > Leap 15.1 should have moved to offer Seamonkey 2.49.5 some time around   
   > October 2019, that was a complete no-brainer.  It is also now irrelevant.   
   > Leap 15.2 should be offering a current level, not one from the start of   
   > August 2018.  I can just about understand not rolling it out to Leap   
   > 15.1 but a 23-month-old browser in the new openSUSE level basically says   
   > "abandoned" and Tristan M did all the necessary work for Tumbleweed 4   
   > months ago.   
   >   
   snip   
      
   It turns out that Tristan M was the maintainer for Tumbleweed - not Leap   
   - and that "abandoned" was basically correct.  He now has a new   
   responsibility ;-)   
      
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