From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2023-06-23 13:53, bad sector wrote:   
   > On 6/23/23 06:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2023-06-23 12:23, bad sector wrote:   
   >>> On 6/23/23 04:56, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>> On 2023-06-23 03:58, bad sector wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I can login as userMe or as root, if as root I enter   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> # lightdm   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> to start the login manager I get   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager,   
   >>>>> do you have the right permissions?"   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't know about lightdm, but the usual startx will not start by   
   >>>> default because of permissions. It even hints you as to where those   
   >>>> permissions are to be changed at your peril.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> been there b4, setuid bits, no joy   
   >>>   
   >>> I'll simplify: what comands WILL start either X   
   >>> or a DM capable of launching X using either nouveau   
   >>> or nvidia *whichever works*?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> startx is used, as root, for diagnostics of the graphical driver.   
   >>   
   >> If that works, then try the normal graphical login, which in ancient   
   >> lore was "init 5". The syntax still works in Leap.   
   >   
   > How about TW?   
      
   I don't use TW, but you can test.   
      
   Telcontar:~ # which init   
   /sbin/init   
   Telcontar:~ # ls /sbin/init   
   /sbin/init   
   Telcontar:~ # l /sbin/init   
   lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mar 28 15:29 /sbin/init ->   
   ../usr/lib/systemd/systemd*   
   Telcontar:~ #   
      
      
   If init exists, it has to work.   
      
      
   > I have since backleveled to the earlier TW backup image, the defective   
   > upgraded one is backed up however. I can recover to it or open the iso   
   > for eyeballing   
   >   
   >> If that doesn't work, stop and analyze the logs.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> ...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> If I upgrade it it bombs   
   >>   
   >> How do you upgrade? The only supported method is "zypper dup" as root.   
   >   
   > yes, the subject one was like 6000 packages   
   >   
   >   
   >>> Also have an image of the bombing upgraded system   
   >>>   
   >>> On the aroma-trail: the nvidia driver updating has   
   >>> been very iffy lately on account of what seem to be   
   >>> server issues. Startx works for root in lo-res so   
   >>> it's an nvidia problem?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Absolutely.   
   >   
   > How to fix, with the nvidia server issues becoming quasi-regular? I need   
   > the nvidia driver because of Google-Earth which alone doesn't do too   
   > good with nouveau. Were it not for this I'd have axed it years ago!   
      
   You will always have issues with Nvidia in TW. Learn how to deal with   
   them, mostly on your own.   
      
   There are warnings about this in the TW documentation.   
      
   This will not change till pigs fly.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
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