From: mutazilah@gmail.com   
      
   On 22/02/24 22:55, Lew Pitcher wrote:   
   > On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:49:19 +0800, Paul Edwards wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 22/02/24 20:48, J.O. Aho wrote:   
   >>> On 22/02/2024 10.57, Richard Kettlewell wrote:   
   >>>> Paul Edwards  writes:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> I guess it's just a semantic debate as to whether this constitutes a   
   >>>>> change in behavior.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This would go a lot quicker if you didn’t engage in “semantic   
   debates”.   
   >>>   
   >>> For me it whole feels like a repeat of systemd when they stupidly picked   
   >>> a namespace already used by the kernel and wanted the kernel to change   
   >>> nem of their namespace.   
   >>>   
   >>> The whole can be solved in the header to define missing macro.   
   >>   
   >> Define it to what? That's my original question.   
   >   
   > That's up to whomever defines it.   
   >   
   >> And by who?   
   >   
   > That would be you. And /not/ by Linux.   
      
   That's not correct.   
      
   I can't properly define it myself. If I define it   
   myself, to an arbitrary value, then the ELF executable   
   will do strange things now or in the future when run   
   on Linux.   
      
   ie if I take over an existing flag or flags, or   
   choose a currently unused bit.   
      
   Again - I've clearly done a really really crappy   
   job of explaining what I want.   
      
   I don't know what I'm doing wrong.   
      
   Is there anyone who actually understands my   
   suggestion who can translate English to English?   
      
   I'll need a translated version for when I speak   
   to the Austin group otherwise I'll be going around   
   the exact same circle.   
      
   It's possible that I have some "unstated assumptions".   
   I have found that a problem in the past. But I don't   
   know what they are until after a lot of discussion.   
      
   I can take a guess though.   
      
   My goal for PDOS/386 is not to run *ANY* *EXISTING*   
   Linux ELF binaries.   
      
   My goal is to run *SPECIFIC* *FUTURE* Linux ELF   
   binaries.   
      
   Specifically ones linked with PDPCLIB where I have   
   done very specific things (which I control) so that   
   THE BINARIES work on BOTH Linux and PDOS/386.   
      
   I'm not attempting to create a Linux clone. I'm only   
   trying to create a very limited clone.   
      
   And I'm not trying to get CRs on Linux. I'm only   
   trying to get CRs on PDOS/386.   
      
   Again - I thought I explained it adequately, but of   
   course I always think that, but this is not the first   
   time I have been mistaken about what is "clear".   
      
   BFN. Paul.   
      
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