From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2024-02-28 13:28, Daniel65 wrote:   
   > R.Wieser wrote on 28/2/24 8:25 pm:   
   >> Daniel65,   
   >>   
   >>> When I had updated the definitions and run a 'Deep Scan', AVG-Free   
   >>> was telling me that my IP Address was visible.   
   >>>   
   >>> Is this a real problem .... or is AVG just trying to flog me their   
   >>> Premium (i.e. PAID) Version??   
   >>   
   >> Them not providing information on when that it happens and how it   
   >> impacts your machine is definitily a red flag.  FUD comes to mind   
   >> (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt).   
   >>   
   >> Heck, if your 'puter has internet access than the router can 'see'   
   >> your puters IP.  It has to, otherwise it can't give your 'puter the   
   >> responses to requests it send.   
   >   
   > That's about how I see it, too. My ISP MUST know my IP address so that   
   > they can know who 'I' am so they can work out what UserName/Password I   
   > have to send to get access to my UseNet account with them.   
   >   
   > That even makes sense to me NOW!!   
      
   When your computer interacts with any other computer on internet, to,   
   send an email, send a news post, read a web page, see a video... all   
   those machines see your IP address. It is how it works, there is nothing   
   wrong with that.   
      
   There is a conversation between the two computer. Your computer sends a   
   packet, the other computer answers with another packet. It has to know   
   where to send that packet to, ie, your address.   
      
   Same as if you send a paper letter.   
      
   Ok, there is a router at your house that is doing a NAT, an address   
   translation. So the other computer in fact sees the address of the   
   router, not the address of your computer. The router does the   
   translation in both directions.   
      
      
   AVG is probably trying to sell you an VPN, to put an intermediary in the   
   connection. The other computer now will see the intermediary address,   
   not yours. The intermediary does a translation for every packet sent or   
   received.   
      
   Some people say that what they seek is privacy (which is not the same as   
   security). They do not want their ISP to get stats on your traffic which   
   they may sell. Ok, but then the VPN manager gets that information   
   instead. Depends who you trust more.   
      
      
   They get money on this. They try to scare you into thinking that you   
   really need to "hide" behind an VPN intermediary. That it is dangerous   
   to not use an VPN. They sell it to people that then do not use it   
   because they don't know how. I had to tell friends, that asked me to   
   activate that VPN thing, fo forget it and cancel that silly subscription   
   they did not need.   
      
      
   Some people may need it, but then they do know about it.   
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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