From: daniel47@nomail.afraid.org   
      
   Carlos E.R. wrote on 29/2/24 5:35 am:   
   > On 2024-02-28 13:28, Daniel65 wrote:   
   >> R.Wieser wrote on 28/2/24 8:25 pm:   
   >>> Daniel65,   
   >>>   
   >>>> When I had updated the definitions and run a 'Deep Scan',   
   >>>> AVG-Free was telling me that my IP Address was visible.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Is this a real problem .... or is AVG just trying to flog me   
   >>>> their Premium (i.e. PAID) Version??   
   >>>   
   >>> Them not providing information on when that it happens and how   
   >>> it impacts your machine is definitily a red flag.  FUD comes to   
   >>> mind (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt).   
   >>>   
   >>> Heck, if your 'puter has internet access than the router can   
   >>> 'see' your puters IP.  It has to, otherwise it can't give your   
   >>> 'puter the responses to requests it send.   
   >>   
   >> That's about how I see it, too. My ISP MUST know my IP address so   
   >> that they can know who 'I' am so they can work out what   
   >> UserName/Password I have to send to get access to my UseNet account   
   >> with them.   
   >>   
   >> That even makes sense to me NOW!!   
   >   
   > When your computer interacts with any other computer on internet, to,   
   > send an email, send a news post, read a web page, see a video... all   
   > those machines see your IP address. It is how it works, there is   
   > nothing wrong with that.   
   >   
   > There is a conversation between the two computer. Your computer sends   
   > a packet, the other computer answers with another packet. It has to   
   > know where to send that packet to, ie, your address.   
   >   
   > Same as if you send a paper letter.   
   >   
   > Ok, there is a router at your house that is doing a NAT, an address   
   > translation. So the other computer in fact sees the address of the   
   > router, not the address of your computer. The router does the   
   > translation in both directions.   
   >   
   > AVG is probably trying to sell you an VPN, to put an intermediary in   
   > the connection. The other computer now will see the intermediary   
   > address, not yours. The intermediary does a translation for every   
   > packet sent or received.   
   >   
   > Some people say that what they seek is privacy (which is not the same   
   > as security). They do not want their ISP to get stats on your traffic   
   > which they may sell. Ok, but then the VPN manager gets that   
   > information instead. Depends who you trust more.   
   >   
   > They get money on this. They try to scare you into thinking that you   
   > really need to "hide" behind an VPN intermediary. That it is   
   > dangerous to not use an VPN. They sell it to people that then do not   
   > use it because they don't know how. I had to tell friends, that asked   
   > me to activate that VPN thing, fo forget it and cancel that silly   
   > subscription they did not need.   
   >   
   > Some people may need it, but then they do know about it.   
      
   O.K., so if AVG are trying to flog me a VPN ..... I'm connecting to the   
   UseNet via my TelCo (TPG) and then to Eternal-September. Are E-S, in   
   effect, a VPN??   
   --   
   Daniel   
      
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