XPost: alt.comp.os.linux, alt.linux   
   From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid   
      
   David Chmelik  wrote at 06:35 this Monday (GMT):   
   > We use many GNU/Linux with MS Intellimouse (four-button) from late 1990s   
   > Intellimouse Explorer 2.0 (mostly relatively new overstock) to recent   
   > years so-called  Classic Intellimouse.  Since 2010s we've had more & more   
   > problems with these and I wonder if the driver has serious/critical bugs.   
   >   
   > We've used them (since 1997) on Slackware, Devuan, Kubuntu, Mint, KDE Neon   
   > GNU/Linuxes and I also tested OpenSUSE, RedHat/clones (Rocky, Fedora),   
   > Gentoo, Arch (SystemRescue) GNU/Linuxes.   
   >   
   > Daily on every single one, occasionally/regularly mouse moves   
   > intermittently/'choppy' or even stops for maybe 10 to 30+secs or just   
   > permanently until unplug & replug or restarting X or rebooting.  It   
   > happens with both Intellimouse Explorer & 'Classic'.   
   >   
   > My parents thought the problem might be mouse-pad, so they removed it and   
   > used mouse on table, which didn't fix anything.  We noticed Intellimouse   
   > Classic doesn't seem to work much at all (unusable) on standard/classic   
   > blue mouse-pads but works on a white one (better than on a table that   
   > looks like woodgrain).   
   >   
   > I also use plain two-button USB MS mice mostly on servers I don't use GUI   
   > much if at all, so don't know it's a general MS mouse problem but their   
   > other mice have different drivers (when you install Slackware you select   
   > from MS Intellimouse or other USB or PS/2 mice).   
   >   
   > We also briefly tested Wayland possibly with same problem, but don't   
   > consider it 'production ready' for many reasons (nor do some/many others).   
   >   
   > The 'choppy' Intellimouse problem has happened across at least six   
   > different desktop PCs (and maybe some laptops) on every GNU/Linux they   
   > have/had.  I don't notice the problem on FreeBSD UNIX (which of course   
   > originally is designed/standardized/engineered with a plan ahead of time   
   > instead of 'make it up as you go along').   
   >   
   > Did anyone else have this happen and is there any solution or anywhere I   
   > can report bugs?   
      
   I have the same bug with a modern Logitech mouse, though unplugging it   
   from the USB-C hub and directly into my laptop fixes it.   
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