XPost: alt.windows7.general   
   From: this@ddress.is.invalid   
      
   Newyana2  wrote:   
   > "J. P. Gilliver"  wrote   
   >   
   > | Ah. Well, you're conflicting two things there - the OS, and the service   
   > | provider.   
   >   
   >    I'm talking about 3 things: hardware maker, OS maker and service.   
   > For example, Samsung, Google, and Verizon, or Apple, Apple and Verizon.   
   > Google doesn't provide phone service but they do greatly control   
   > and spy on Android cellphones. Apple does the same with iPhones.   
   > What I'm saying is that Apple and Google should have no access to   
   > the phones except for voluntary OS updates, or perhaps for   
   > voluntarily loaded apps. If they want to have a "store" then let   
   > them, but it shouldn't be forced and other stores shouldn't be   
   > restricted. That's partly what the US lawsuit is about.   
      
     Yes, but the lawsuit is about Apple. For Google, you've always been   
   able to use other app stores (later in your post, you say so yurself).   
      
     As to updates, you get system/OS/app updates from the phone   
   manufacturer (Samsung in your example), some system/OS updates from   
   Google ("Google Play system updates" (note "system updates", they are   
   system updates, not updates to the Google Play System (note lower case   
   versus upper case first letter of "system'))) and app updates from   
   wherever you got the apps.   
      
   [...]   
      
   >   None of it is from the Tracfone service. It's all Google crap   
   > pre-installed on Android. I go to a non-Google app provider, have   
   > no Google account and use no Google apps or services, but   
   > Google infests the whole OS. There are dozens of pre-installed   
   > Google processes, many of which can't be uninstalled.   
      
     That's not too dissimilar from Microsoft Windows on your PC. Windows   
   also contains all kinds of processes, services, etc. which you 'need'   
   and can't uninstall. You may be able to prevent some processes and   
   services from starting, but that's about all.   
      
     Android isn't all that different, but the point is you're used to and   
   familiar with the inner workings of Windows, but you know very little   
   about Android and are only/mostly whingeing, instead of willing to   
   learn. As I said in another response: You bought the wrong type of   
   phone, for you.   
      
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