XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2024-04-01 13:21, J.O. Aho wrote:   
   > On 31/03/2024 20.17, Newyana2 wrote:   
   >> "J.O. Aho"  wrote   
   >>   
   >> | > The   
   >> | > whole approach is a ridiculous mess. How could quality control   
   >> | > possibly be carried out on so many constant changes?   
   >> |   
   >> | Quite simple, most open source projects can get free static code   
   >> | inspection (this can be automated say when a pull request is made), a   
   >> | review is always needed before code are merged (how good it is depends   
   >> | on the maintainers, all from sloppy microsoft standard to BSD high   
   >> | standard) . This is the same way as most closed source projects also   
   >> are   
   >> | done.   
   >> |   
   >>   
   >>    I don't see it as a closed vs open issue. Microsoft   
   >> now do the same dripfeed updating. Essentially, the   
   >> SOHo customer base are now an unpaid beta testing   
   >> army.   
   >   
   > That was the feeling one got reading, bashing on open source development   
   > model, which in reality don't be that much different from remote working   
   > setups with the exception that developers not gone trough a silly   
   > interview.   
   >   
   >   
   >>    I've had to make efforts to block these unknown updates   
   >> in both Win10 and Suse.   
   >   
   > In microsoft updates you can't opt out from specific updates, everything   
   > is bundled together, while for example with Suse you can block specific   
   > packages from being updated (in the long run you may get a dependency   
   > issue, not my problem).   
   >   
   >   > (And yes, it is in the 100s. I had   
   >> my firewall down briefly after a week or two when Suse couldn't   
   >> call home.   
   >   
   > What you call for calling home for Suse is just a fetch of the latest   
   > status on what packages exists in the remote repository and some   
   > metadata, so it's one way communication, sure the remote end could store   
   > your IP and which repository you was fetching from.   
      
   And you'd have to consider that the download happens from multiple   
   servers hosted by independent sites the world over. In the case of   
   openSUSE they can not even obtain reliable detailed stats on the users.   
      
   Anyway, it is open, you can find out what the infrastructure does. There   
   is no evil.   
      
   >   
   > It's on your local system that the calculation is done which packages   
   > are needed to be installed to get everything up to latest version.   
   >   
   > This differs much from the microsoft way, which you tell everything to   
   > microsoft and they tell you what to install.   
      
   Right.   
      
      
   ...   
      
   > Please don't be stupid, keep your stuff up to date, it's not about you,   
   > but it's about everyone else as when you are part of a botnet everyone   
   > else will be affected of your bad decisions.   
      
   +1   
      
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