XPost: alt.windows7.general   
   From: Newyana2@invalid.nospam   
      
   "Java Jive"  wrote   
      
   | Sometime yesterday YouTube changed something about their site that means   
   | that now it breaks in the latest v33.0.2 of Pale Moon on W7 64-bit ...   
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     Not surprising. PM is based on the Goanna engine. Script   
   is changing so fast that nothing but FF is keeping up. I   
   now find pages in New Moon (PM for XP) are sometimes   
   completely blank because the page is essentially javascript   
   software and NM can't make sense of it.   
      
      I was going to install PM as an alternate on Win10, but then   
   I realized they also have few extensions. They block NoScript   
   because they're afraid people might blame broken pages on   
   PM when they block script. In brief, PM isn't what it used to be.   
   For years PM/NM has been my preferred browser.   
      
      I did a bit of looking around and decided on Ungoogled Chromium   
   as an alternate in a pinch. I have no preferred alternate to FF.   
   UGC is too much like Chrome to use normally. It's now actually   
   impossible to get a title bar or menu bar. The former I can   
   live with. But being forced to take several steps down   
   from a hamburger menu that's designed for cellphones, with   
   no possible justification, is just too crazy for regular use. In   
   general I dislike the lack of control in Chrom*. (I also tried   
   to remove the experiments icon on the toolbar. So far no luck.   
   In FF I just drag such things out of the window and into the   
   customization window.)   
     And I had to jump through hoops to  install extensions in UGC.   
   Google won't allow downloading them without an account. (!)   
   So there's a custom extension for getting extensions from the   
   Google Store. :)   
      
       I'll likely use UGC only for rare occasions where FF has   
   a problem.   
      
     I used Waterfox for awhile. It seemed fine, but not notably   
   attractive in any way. The PM/NM browsers have been attractive in   
   being leaner and faster than FF.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)