From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On 6/12/2024 10:25 AM, Danart wrote:   
   >   
   >  > Philo wrote:   
   >  > I find Linux great for using on older machines that my friends give   
   > me   
   >  > when they upgrade. For the most part I've been using Ubuntu and   
   > anytime   
   >  > I put the drive in a different machine, it simply boots up and   
   >  > reconfigures with no problems.   
   >  >   
   >  > The other day I tried to transplant a Mint 20.3 HD into different   
   >  > hardware an the system just plain would not boot. I tried six   
   > different   
   >  > machines before I gave up.   
   >  >   
   >  >   
   >  > Though I started with RedHat Linux 5.2 ages ago, I never did make   
   > the   
   >  > transition to Fedora, but tried Fedora 40 today and am quite   
   > pleased   
   >  > with it.   
   >  >   
   >  > I tested the drive in a number of machines and just like Ubuntu, it   
   >   
   >  > booted right up with no problems so I am thinking of using Fedora   
   > as an   
   >  > additional OS rather than Mint   
   >  >   
   >  > One thing I liked also was that it automatically detected and   
   > installed   
   >  > my Brother laser printer that I had quite a bit of difficulty to   
   > get to   
   >  > work with Ubuntu and Mint   
   >  >   
   >  >   
   >  > Just out of curiosity though, is there anything I could do to prep   
   > my   
   >  > Mint install to work with new hardware?   
   >  >   
   >  > Thanks   
   >   
   > In a perfect world we all would be using Fedora.   
   >   
   > Between Mint and Ubuntu you should be using Ubuntu. Mint is just a   
   > Windows Desktop clone.   
   > Mint is hogging developers and if anything should be considered if   
   > your an employee. Honestly   
   > I would learn the command-line ( terminal ) commands and do installs   
   > via that   
      
   Most end-users care about the end-user experience.   
      
   Ubuntu tries to "steer" you a certain way. Linux Mint does not.   
   And Linux Mint works a bit better out of the box.   
      
   Ubuntu arrives with Universe and Multiverse turned off. Um, WTF.   
   Is a Windows User going to be able to shovel themselves out, during   
   the year of the Linux Desktop ?   
      
   *******   
      
   ~$ inxi -F   
   System:   
     Host: GERONOMO Kernel: 6.8.0-35-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64   
     Desktop: GNOME v: 46.0 Distro: Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat)   
   Machine: P9X79   
   CPU: i7-4930K   
   Graphics:   
     Device-1: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1080] driver: nvidia v: 535.171.04   
     Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:   
       loaded: modesetting,nouveau,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,vesa   
       gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 1: 1280x1024~60Hz 2: N/A   
     API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,nvidia,swrast   
       platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device   
     API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 535.171.04   
       renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2   
   Audio:   
     Device-1: Intel C600/X79 series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel   
     Device-2: NVIDIA GP104 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel   
     Device-3: Philips s SAA7164 driver: saa7164   
     API: ALSA v: k6.8.0-35-generic status: kernel-api   
     Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active   
   Network:   
     Device-1: Intel 82579V Gigabit Network driver: e1000e   
     IF: eno1   state: up   speed: 1000 Mbps   duplex: full   mac:   
   Drives:   
     Local Storage: WD1003FZEX-00K3CA0   
   Partition:   
     ID-1: / size: 194.19 GiB used: 16.09 GiB (8.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5   
   Swap: /swap.img   
   Sensors:   
     System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 38 C   
     Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A   gpu: nvidia fan: 38%   
   Info:   
     Memory: 64 GiB   
     Shell: Bash   inxi: 3.3.34   
      
   ~$ __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=0 glxgears   
   54453 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10890.600 FPS   <=== slower than the Mint result   
   below   
   55770 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11153.989 FPS   
   55296 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11059.189 FPS   
   54611 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10922.178 FPS   
   55881 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11176.076 FPS   
      
   *******   
      
   ~$ inxi -F   
   System:   
     Host: LM213TST Kernel: 5.15.0-107-generic x86_64 bits: 64    <=== more   
   likely to work with the kinds of video cards   
       Desktop: Cinnamon 6.0.4 Distro: Linux Mint 21.3 Virginia        people are   
   using right now. No extra expense.   
   Machine: P9X79   
   CPU: i7-4930K   
   Graphics:   
     Device-1: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1080] driver: nvidia v: 535.171.04    \   
     Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: nvidia           \   
       unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa  gpu: nvidia                       
   \___ Conventional and well tested   
       resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz                                                /   
     OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2                        /   
       v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.171.04                                              /   
   Audio:   
     Device-1: Intel C600/X79 series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel   
     Device-2: NVIDIA GP104 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel   
     Device-3: Philips s SAA7164 driver: saa7164   
     Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-107-generic running: yes   
     Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes   
     Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes   
   Network:   
     Device-1: Intel 82579V Gigabit Network driver: e1000e   
     IF: eno1   state: up   speed: 1000 Mbps   duplex: full   mac:   
   Drives:   
     Local Storage: WD1003FZEX-00K3CA0   
   Partition:   
     ID-1: / size: 31.79 GiB used: 22.83 GiB (71.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2   
   Swap: /swapfile   
   Sensors:   
     System Temperatures: cpu: 30.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 38 C   
     Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A   gpu: nvidia fan: 38%   
   Info:   
     Memory: 62.73 GiB   used: 1.65 GiB (2.6%)   
     Shell: Bash   inxi: 3.3.13   
      
   ~$ __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=0 glxgears   
   96182 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19236.338 FPS   
   98893 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19778.553 FPS   
   99258 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19851.592 FPS   
   99648 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19929.467 FPS   
   98908 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19781.574 FPS   
      
   GLXGears is not linear, and saturates above around 20000 or so.   
   I cannot find any results in Google for relatively modern cards   
   to verify whether the limit is higher now or not. It has the   
   benefit of "being available" and that is all.   
      
       Paul   
      
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