XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   XPost: alt.privacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2024-07-10 00:27, Andrew wrote:   
   > Steve Hayes wrote on Wed, 10 Jul 2024 05:15:19 +0200 :   
   >   
   >>> Are we talking at different things??   
   >>   
   >> Yes, we are talking about different things.   
   >>   
   >> We are talking about computers that are no longer computers, but are   
   >> being turned into dumb terminals because they will not perform   
   >> functions that a stand-alone computer normall performs, like saving a   
   >> document, without being tethered, not merely to the Internet, but to a   
   >> particular site on  the internet owned by the vendor of the computer's   
   >> operating system - like asn Apple computer not working unless it is   
   >> linked to the Apple company's web site, or a Microsoft computer not   
   >> working unless it is linked to the Microsoft company's web site.   
   >   
   > While this thread is specifically NOT about the dumb-terminal design of   
   > Apple systems, it's well known to everyone that if you don't log into the   
   > Apple servers every moment of every day of the rest of your life, all the   
   > "walled-garden" stuff Apple users crow about, suddenly stops working.   
      
   Utterly false.   
      
   >   
   > Ask me how I know this (see images in the original post proving it).   
   >   
   > It needs to be stated that this Alan Baker guy is what most of us would   
   > refer to as a strange Apple religious fundamentalist zealot, who feels his   
   > only value in life is to defend Apple to the death, no matter what.   
   >   
   > He doesn't even realize he had to log into Apple servers on the Internet   
   > just to create the AppleID which is an Internet requirement that is found   
   > on no other common consumer operating system.   
   >   
   > Once he has that Apple ID on the Internet, he doesn't realize all his apps   
   > are tied specifically to that unique Apple ID such that no app installer   
   > can be copied to another device (that doesn't have his unique Apple ID).   
   >   
   > Again, that every app (even free apps) are locked to his specific ID is a   
   > requirement that is found on no other common consumer operating system.   
      
   This is utterly false, inasmuch as Arlen is ignorant of the fact that   
   only iOS devices require you to use the app store.   
      
   > Once he installs that app, which is locked to his Apple ID, if that app is   
   > a key component of the infamous walled garden (such as Messages or   
   > Facetime), then again he has to log into *another* Apple server on the   
   > Internet to use all the features of the walled garden he crows about.   
      
   In order to use ANY service that transmit messages from one person to   
   another, you need to log in to identify yourself.   
      
   >   
   > It's well known that I have many Apple products where I specifically   
   > decided to NOT log into the Apple Internet servers, where Apple   
   > unilaterally bricks your login after about two years (twice!), and then,   
      
   He's simply lying.   
      
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