XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 2/16/2025 10:53 AM, Newyana2 wrote:   
   > On 2/16/2025 8:39 AM, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >> I've got a PVR who's HD is getting pretty full (90%+) with programs I'll   
   want to watch some day ... so I was thinking about coping some of the 'Keeper'   
   programs onto DVD which meant buying a spool of DVD's.... but then needed to   
   check if I needed DVD-   
   R or DVD+R disks. (It is DVD-R)   
   >>   
   >> Which got me thinking ...... What's the difference between DVD-R and DVD+R??   
   >>   
   >   
   >    I have no idea, but I've had trouble with + and never with -.   
   > So I make sure to buy -. And I try to get Memorex. Once   
   > again, I don't really have a good reason. It's just that I've never   
   > had trouble with it. I once had a whole stack of Sony that were   
   > useless. And I'm hesitant to try the bargain brands.   
      
   The brand on the disc, has nothing to do with the manufacturer.   
      
   For example, Maxell and Fujitsu, used to package Ritek discs   
   in a nice plastic cake box for you.   
      
   The actual companies, have names like CMC, Ritek, Tao Yuden.   
   Memorex buys lots of discs from a certain supplier, and   
   it's a different supplier than Maxell would buy from.   
      
   Philips doesn't make disks, and it buys whatever is available.   
      
   The media tag might make this clear, when you use your burning   
   software to read the tag. The tag is practically *never* going   
   to match the brand stamped on the cake box. The two layers of   
   the system are that isolated.   
      
   Now that the whole thing is collapsed, if I go to my computer   
   store, there are DVD R And DVD DL R left as media type. And   
   the quantity of media is so extensive, there were four cake   
   boxes under the cash, and I bought two of them. At first, the   
   staff didn't even know where the blank media had gone. But one of the   
   staff eventually figured out it was underneath   
   the cash register in the display case there.   
      
   That store used to have minimum of three cubic meters of media at one   
   time. They set up tables apart from the other display areas,   
   just so they could put more boxes of media under the table.   
   There was a wide selection of fake names for the branding back then.   
      
   The "cdfreaks" website is where you used to get information   
   on what was worth buying. They could tell you what was inside   
   the box, because a "Philips" cake box, did not say on the back   
   what brand of discs they were packaging. Someone had to buy a   
   sample so they could tell you what those are.   
      
   And "cdfreaks" had some pirates, and occasionally someone would   
   say "I burned 500 of those last week, very good". And occasionally   
   one of those people would tell you "I have seven drives set up in   
   parallel, burning away". That would give you some idea what   
   a pirate would do (make single layer media from a DL Hollywood pressing).   
   So what if the movie was blurry.   
      
   And if you think pirating is easy, that's a lot of work. There is   
   too much manual handling of materials to be a "success" at it.   
   It's more a state of mind, than a business.   
      
      Paul   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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