From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-03-17 20:21, Paul wrote:   
   > On Mon, 3/17/2025 2:23 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-03-17 15:05, Anssi Saari wrote:   
   >>> Dan Purgert  writes:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2025-03-15, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> For example, are you allowed to put NTFS on a hot-pluggable volume?   
   >>>>> Somehow, I don’t think so.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Practically every USB stick in existence would like to disagree.   
   >>>   
   >>> Those are usually FAT formatted. FAT32 or the newer exFAT. No issue   
   >>> reformatting to NTFS though.   
   >>>   
   >>> I've actually found NTFS on a USB SSD to be surprisingly widely   
   >>> supported on media players and TVs and such. I've used it on Android   
   >>> too. So NTFS has become my go-to portable FS.   
   >>   
   >> exFAT is better, but few TV sets support it, while many support NTFS.   
   >>   
   >   
   > EXFAT requires a license.   
   >   
   > NTFS requires a license.   
   >   
   > FAT32 requires a license (or at least TomTom may have discovered it did :-) )   
   >   
      
   I remember that, there was a court case.   
      
   > One difference is, some applications of EXFAT are   
   > covered by FRAND (where EXFAT is defined in a standards doc,   
   > as the default filesystem for a certain piece of hardware).   
   >   
   > In any case, whether license terms are fair and reasonable,   
   > or are the normal kind of license terms, equipment makers   
   > will not pay a penny more for licensing. It does not latter   
   > what the license fee is, they don't want to pay it, whatever it is.   
      
   Ah, I understand.   
      
   >   
   > NTFS is journaled. NTFS is slightly harder on a USB stick,   
   > from a wear perspective. You can improve the characteristics   
   > a tiny bit, by disabling "LastAccessed".   
      
   I did not know that.   
      
   > FAT32 and EXFAT are not journaled. You can set the cluster   
   > size on FAT32 and EXFAT (make it greater than or equal to   
   > the flash page size).   
      
   Similar to disabling the journal on ext4. And there is no licensing on it.   
      
      
   >   
   > BTFS   
      
   BTFS?   
      
   > supports extra large clusters, but the option is not   
   > backward compatible (a Win11 NTFS partition with one megabyte   
   > clusters, cannot be mounted by Windows XP, or by Windows 7).   
   > And that doesn't include testing the Linux response, as if   
   > an option isn't intended to be compatible, nobody is going to use it.   
   >   
   >     Paul   
      
   Right.   
      
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           Carlos E.R.   
      
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