XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 18:25:53 -0400, WolfFan wrote :   
      
      
   >>> There is a ton of "free software" for both iOS and for Android.   
   >>>   
   >>> What's unique about iOS is that you can't re-use that free software.   
   >>> That's bad.   
   >   
   > Hmm. Looks at nice shiny new iPhone 16, currently downloading all the stuff   
   > which was on the iPhone 11 which I had before updating to a 16. All of it.   
   > Looks at the old iPhone 11, sitting next to the 16. Is all my stuff still   
   > there? Why yes it is.   
      
   The problem with you Apple trolls is you have no idea how things work in   
   the real world. You live in a restrictive cave that Apple created for you.   
      
   On every other platform but iOS, you can take that installer (in your case,   
   the IPA file) and install it on *billions* of other similar devices.   
      
   Yes. Billions. The point being the installer isn't locked solely to you.   
   Only Apple locks free installers so that you *must* download them again.   
      
   Nobody else does that.   
   Just Apple.   
      
   And that's bad.   
   Apple's ecosystem locks you under the surface of the earth as if in a cave.   
      
   >  I'm going to have to erase the 11 before sending it   
   > off to AT&T to get the refund to apply to the price of the 16.   
      
   Thank you for bringing up that only Apple owners are so desperate to recoup   
   some of the immense money they paid that they pine for trade-in assistance.   
      
   Apple owners are mainly the only people who pay twice as much for the   
   phone, then line up at the store to ditch that phone at the first chance.   
      
   Then, they get half as much back for the original phone, just to pay twice   
   as much for the phone that they lined up outside the store to get.   
      
   They *hate* their phones so much that they can't wait to ditch them.   
   And that's bad.   
      
   The entire Apple ecosystem is like living in an underground cavern.   
      
   > Until then,   
   > all my stuff, including all the free Apple stuff, will be on two phones.   
   > Hmm... now where is that... ah, there it is. My ancient iPhone 6, which had   
   > been too old to trade in on the 11. Let me plug it in and power it up... why   
   > there is all my stuff as it was before I got the 11. As the 6 no longer has a   
   > SIM, it can't make calls... if it's not on a network with a device with   
   > the same AppleID. Which it is. It can use my old stuff. It can be upgraded to   
   > the limits of the hardware. It can make calls. Why. all my old free Apple   
   > stuff is in _three_ places. Damn, that's good for something which can't   
   > be re-used...   
      
   Now install on that iPhone 11 all the software that is on that iPhone 6   
   that is no longer on the Apple App Store. C'mon. Do it. Do it now.   
      
   Oh wait.  You can't.   
      
   Every other operating system allows re-use (as long as the hardware is   
   compatible) but only Apple prevents you from re-using your apps.   
      
   You've been in a cave the moment you bought into the Apple ecosystem.   
      
   > Oh. Wait. I have an iPad. Did the stuff from the iPhone show on the iPad? Why   
   > yes it did. That's _four_ places, all of which can be used, two of which   
   > can run all of the latest and greatest versions, one more of which can run   
   > most of the latest and greatest until I reformat it to send it to AT&T. And   
   > if I didn't want AT&T's bounty I'd be able to use the 11, just as I can   
   > still use the 6. Note that 'same network as a device with the same   
   > AppleID' includes Macs and, to a limited extent, iCloud-equipped WinBoxen.   
   > I can use the 6 as a phone. Still. Even if I don't have the 16, the 11, or   
   > the iPad. I can use the apps, including the Apple apps, on it...   
      
   You have a lot of software on that iPad, right? So now your next-door   
   neighbor and your best friend and *billions* of others want those IPAs.   
      
   How do you get those IPAs to those people so they can re-use your apps?   
   You can't.   
      
   On *every* other operating system, you can. You are suffocated by Apple.   
   Apple has you living in a cave that has no air vents to the outside world.   
      
   > And I can use iCloud web apps on the WinBoxen, including Find My, Maps,   
   > iWork, more... Damn. That's _seven_ places, one made by ASUS, one. by   
   > Lenovo, one by MSI, not Apple! Damn! is there no limit to Apple's perfidy?   
   > Forcing users to be able to use free Apple stuff ANYWHERE THEY BLOODY WANT   
   > TO? The horror. The horror.   
      
   I realize you live in a cave made by Apple, suffocated by the fact that   
   Apple locks each and every IPA to your AppleID and only to your AppleID.   
      
   I realize Apple tracks you since you can't leave that cave, forever.   
      
   But what you need to realize is that everyone else in the world except   
   Apple owners has full & complete re-use of free software app installers.   
      
   Good for the rest of the world; bad for Apple owners.   
      
   Unfortunately, when it comes to app re-use, Apple owners live in a cave.   
      
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