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   vallor to Alan   
   Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tu   
   08 Apr 25 22:55:30   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: vallor@cultnix.org   
      
   On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 09:42:51 -0700, Alan  wrote in   
   :   
      
   > On 2025-04-08 04:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-04-08 11:19, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>> On 8/04/2025 4:07 pm, Marion wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 02:37:12 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> There is free open source software which does not cost money but   
   >>>>>> when distributed by the Apple App Store, it's locked to a specific   
   >>>>>> Apple ID.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No other operating system vendor does that for software that is   
   >>>>>> free.   
   >>>>>> Only Apple.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> AGAIN, that is not FREE Software.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Stop calling it Free. It ain't. This is serious, Arlen. Study it up.   
   >>>>> You claim to be clever. Be it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Call it whatever you want to call it, but that's what Apple does to   
   >>>>>> it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I don't care who does it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The fact that only Apple adds locks (to an Apple ID) on software that   
   >>>> no other operating system locks is the technical point that matters   
   >>>> here.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That lock goes on *all* software from Apple. Every single app. Every   
   >>>> type.   
   >>>> No matter what type of app it is. It gets that unique lock only Apple   
   >>>> does.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's what's different. The lock. It's unique. Only Apple does that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That lock prevents re-use. And that lock allows Apple to track you.   
   >>>> And that's what's bad.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Am I mis-reading what is being posted here??   
   >>>   
   >>> Both Marion *AND* Carlos E.R. seem to be suggesting that *only* Apple   
   >>> locks a user into their/Apples system .... Other OSs/systems are not   
   >>> locking their users into THEIR OSs/Systems.   
   >>>   
   >>> Or am I mis-understanding what is being posted??   
   >>   
   >> No, I am saying nothing about the lock. I don't care, I don't have any   
   >> Apple.   
   >>   
   >> What I say is that if there is a lock, the Apple software may be   
   >> gratis,   
   >> but it is not Free (as in Freedom). Free means I am free to take the   
   >> source code, remove the lock, recompile, and sell it myself. With   
   >> variants in the details by the licensing.   
   >>   
   >>   
   > Carlos, you personally don't get to decide for the world what the word   
   > "free" means.   
   >   
   > Sorry to burst your bubble on this.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software   
      
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