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   From: YourName@YourISP.com   
      
   On 2025-04-08 11:06:55 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:   
   > On 2025-04-08 11:19, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >> On 8/04/2025 4:07 pm, Marion wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 02:37:12 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There is free open source software which does not cost money but when   
   >>>>> distributed by the Apple App Store, it's locked to a specific Apple ID.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No other operating system vendor does that for software that is free.   
   >>>>> Only Apple.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> AGAIN, that is not FREE Software.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Stop calling it Free. It ain't. This is serious, Arlen. Study it up. You   
   >>>> claim to be clever. Be it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Call it whatever you want to call it, but that's what Apple does to it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't care who does it.   
   >>>   
   >>> The fact that only Apple adds locks (to an Apple ID) on software that no   
   >>> other operating system locks is the technical point that matters here.   
   >>>   
   >>> That lock goes on *all* software from Apple. Every single app. Every type.   
   >>> No matter what type of app it is. It gets that unique lock only Apple does.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's what's different. The lock. It's unique. Only Apple does that.   
   >>>   
   >>> That lock prevents re-use. And that lock allows Apple to track you.   
   >>> And that's what's bad.   
   >>   
   >> Am I mis-reading what is being posted here??   
   >>   
   >> Both Marion *AND* Carlos E.R. seem to be suggesting that *only* Apple   
   >> locks a user into their/Apples system .... Other OSs/systems are not   
   >> locking their users into THEIR OSs/Systems.   
   >>   
   >> Or am I mis-understanding what is being posted??   
   >   
   > No, I am saying nothing about the lock. I don't care, I don't have any Apple.   
   >   
   > What I say is that if there is a lock,   
      
   There is no "lock". Purchases from Apple's App Store are linked to the   
   Apple user ID, but that's simply because not all apps on the App Store   
   are free, so they are all linked to an user ID. If you've bought an app   
   or downloaded a free app, then you can easily re-download it on any new   
   device (assuming it works on it) at no cost simply by using the same   
   Apple user ID.   
      
   If it's a free app, then any other user can download it using their own   
   Apple user ID anyway.   
      
   It is of course just the usual anti-Apple, know-nothing trolls like   
   "Marion" making a massive mountain out of a grain of sand.   
      
      
      
      
   > the Apple software may be gratis, but it is not Free (as in Freedom).   
      
   Free means you don't pay any money for it. It has nothing to do with "freedom".   
      
      
      
   >  Free means I am free to take the source code, remove the lock,   
   > recompile, and sell it myself. With variants in the details by the   
   > licensing.   
      
   That is "open source", an entirely different thing. Plus "open source"   
   is not always actually free, since in some cases you actually still   
   have to pay for it.   
      
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