XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: Zaidy036@air.isp.spam   
      
   On 4/9/2025 12:24 AM, Your Name wrote:   
   > On 2025-04-08 11:06:55 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:   
   >> On 2025-04-08 11:19, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>> On 8/04/2025 4:07 pm, Marion wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 02:37:12 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> There is free open source software which does not cost money but when   
   >>>>>> distributed by the Apple App Store, it's locked to a specific   
   >>>>>> Apple ID.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No other operating system vendor does that for software that is free.   
   >>>>>> Only Apple.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> AGAIN, that is not FREE Software.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Stop calling it Free. It ain't. This is serious, Arlen. Study it   
   >>>>> up. You   
   >>>>> claim to be clever. Be it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Call it whatever you want to call it, but that's what Apple does   
   >>>>>> to it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I don't care who does it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The fact that only Apple adds locks (to an Apple ID) on software   
   >>>> that no   
   >>>> other operating system locks is the technical point that matters here.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That lock goes on *all* software from Apple. Every single app. Every   
   >>>> type.   
   >>>> No matter what type of app it is. It gets that unique lock only   
   >>>> Apple does.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's what's different. The lock. It's unique. Only Apple does that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That lock prevents re-use. And that lock allows Apple to track you.   
   >>>> And that's what's bad.   
   >>>   
   >>> Am I mis-reading what is being posted here??   
   >>>   
   >>> Both Marion *AND* Carlos E.R. seem to be suggesting that *only* Apple   
   >>> locks a user into their/Apples system .... Other OSs/systems are not   
   >>> locking their users into THEIR OSs/Systems.   
   >>>   
   >>> Or am I mis-understanding what is being posted??   
   >>   
   >> No, I am saying nothing about the lock. I don't care, I don't have any   
   >> Apple.   
   >>   
   >> What I say is that if there is a lock,   
   >   
   > There is no "lock". Purchases from Apple's App Store are linked to the   
   > Apple user ID, but that's simply because not all apps on the App Store   
   > are free, so they are all linked to an user ID. If you've bought an app   
   > or downloaded a free app, then you can easily re-download it on any new   
   > device (assuming it works on it) at no cost simply by using the same   
   > Apple user ID.   
   >   
   > If it's a free app, then any other user can download it using their own   
   > Apple user ID anyway.   
   >   
   > It is of course just the usual anti-Apple, know-nothing trolls like   
   > "Marion" making a massive mountain out of a grain of sand.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >> the Apple software may be gratis, but it is not Free (as in Freedom).   
   >   
   > Free means you don't pay any money for it. It has nothing to do with   
   > "freedom".   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>  Free means I am free to take the source code, remove the lock,   
   >> recompile, and sell it myself. With variants in the details by the   
   >> licensing.   
   >   
   > That is "open source", an entirely different thing. Plus "open source"   
   > is not always actually free, since in some cases you actually still have   
   > to pay for it.   
   >   
   >   
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