XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.mobile.android, comp.sys.mac.apps   
   XPost: comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:26:01 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :   
      
      
   >>Actions speak louder than words, little boy. And you always side with   
   >>Arlen - religiously (you even forgave him for impersonating you lol).   
   >   
   > I will agree with anyone who speaks the truth or makes a rational   
   > statement, even you on occasion.  But I learned my lesson the last time   
   > I agreed with you when I realized you were lying.   
      
   Hi badgolferman,   
      
   Logic. And sense. Equals reason.   
      
   Like you, and like any logically sensible adult, I will agree with anyone   
   who makes a claim that is logically and sensibly sound, and you know that.   
      
   I will even openly & willingly apologize publicly if I say something that   
   turns out to be incorrect - and you know that also.   
      
   These Apple trolls? Hmmm.... they never do either.   
   Their only goal is to defend Apple's honor... to the death. No matter what.   
      
   With respect to the technical problem of copying files off of iOS to any   
   other platform without using the cloud, the Apple trolls claim that iTunes   
   can do it and that SMB can do it.   
      
   And yet, Apple publicly disavows any support whatsoever of Linux.   
   And Android.   
      
   So how do these Apple trolls copy files from iOS to Android?   
   (HINT: They don't. They lied.)   
      
   When the Apple trolls claim to copy from iOS to Android using the Files SMB   
   capability, they're lying because it's not possible (to my knowledge).   
      
   If it is possible to copy from iOS to Android using SMB, let them tell me   
   how they did it because Frank Slootweg taught me years ago that an unrooted   
   Android can't set up an SMB server (due to the SMB ports being below 1024).   
      
   And how do these Apple trolls use iTunes on Windows safely & securely?   
   (HINT: They don't. They lied.)   
      
   The Apple trolls are banking on us not knowing the facts about iTunes.   
      
   It has been *many* years since the iTunes bloatware abomination had the   
   capability of copying the IPA to the Windows platform (and even then,   
   iTunes grabbed that IPA from the App Store - not from the iOS device!)   
      
   So the only way they're doing it, today, is that they're not.   
   They lied.   
      
   Not only does that many years old iTunes bloatware abomination have known   
   zero-day exploit which Apple has not fixed in those deprecated versions,   
   but if the Apple trolls were to initiate that backup today using that old   
   software, it *still* grabs the IPA from the *current* iOS App Store.   
      
   So they lied doubly so (since what they claim is impossible to do).   
   They can NOT get older IPAs. They can only get the *current* IPA.   
      
   Not only do these Apple trolls have to use known exploited bloatware to do   
   that, but that bloatware doesn't work on Android nor on Linux (which Apple   
   says they will never support).   
      
   In summary, I think I make a logically sensible reasonable case against   
   using iTunes to copy files between iOS and every other platform we use.   
      
   The Apple trolls vehemently (actually viciously) disagree. By lying.   
   (HINT: That's what Apple trolls do.)   
      
   Apple trolls think nothing of lying to defend Apple's honor to the death.   
   --   
   This lack of logic & sense has been what the Apple Trolls have been doing   
   for decades on any newsgroup which contains any other operating system.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)