XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-04-16 05:28, Paul wrote:   
   > On Wed, 4/16/2025 6:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >> On 15/04/2025 6:01 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-04-14 17:48, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   >>>> Arno Welzel  wrote:   
   >>>>> Arno Welzel, 2025-04-14 13:18:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-13 15:57:   
   >>>>> [...]   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Yes, I agree, that Android has the flexibility to user other methods as   
   >>>>> well, like backup apps, ADB and so on - but this needs enough experience   
   >>>>> by the user like how to set up ADB on a computer or how to transfer the   
   >>>>> backup to another device using USB and so on.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     The methods I mentioned do not require the user to setup ADB. The   
   >>>> Smart Switch Android-to-Windows backup does use a USB-cable, but no ADB.   
   >>>> The Smart Switch Android app can transfer to another phone by Wi-Fi or   
   >>>> USB and can backup to cloud, SD-card or USB-stick.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's a Samsung app, I understand. What about a generic full backup app,   
   non adb? For any operating system, not Windows only?   
   >>   
   >> Don't know about a Samsung App but, in Linux, I can use a 'dd' commandline   
   command to back up both my Windows and Linux installations.   
   >>   
   >> Is there a similar commandline command for Android and/or Apple Mac??   
   >   
   > On computing devices that support booting from a second OS, you can   
   > gain "dd" access from the second OS. On my MacG4, I booted the Ubuntu PPC   
   > DVD, and used Ubuntu "dd" to transfer out the disk (which would be at-rest).   
   > I used a command line FTP session, and you can mix shell commands into   
   > the ftp commands -- dd can be piped into a (binary) "put". And on the   
   computer   
   > I did that on, the GbE at 112MB/sec, that's the fastest interface it has got.   
   >   
   > But something like a phone, there are fewer opportunities for tricks like   
   that.   
   > Rooting the phone, if you can manage it, is as close as you're getting   
   > to a good time.   
   >   
   > On at least one phone, the NAND is hidden underneath something, and   
   > you can't cable up and read-out the NAND chip with external equipment.   
   > For some of the devices, it's pretty well secured. You would not expect   
   > a simple trick to work in such a case.   
   >   
   >     Paul   
      
   Or you could just use the "dd" command built into the Unix sub-system of   
   every Mac since Mac OS X was first released in 2001...   
      
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