XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: Hank@nospam.invalid   
      
   Alan wrote:   
   > On 2025-04-16 14:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-04-16 22:26, Alan wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-04-16 05:28, Paul wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 4/16/2025 6:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 15/04/2025 6:01 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2025-04-14 17:48, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Arno Welzel  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Arno Welzel, 2025-04-14 13:18:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-13 15:57:   
   >>>>>>>> [...]   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes, I agree, that Android has the flexibility to user other   
   >>>>>>>> methods as   
   >>>>>>>> well, like backup apps, ADB and so on - but this needs enough   
   >>>>>>>> experience   
   >>>>>>>> by the user like how to set up ADB on a computer or how to   
   >>>>>>>> transfer the   
   >>>>>>>> backup to another device using USB and so on.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>     The methods I mentioned do not require the user to setup   
   >>>>>>> ADB. The   
   >>>>>>> Smart Switch Android-to-Windows backup does use a USB-cable, but   
   >>>>>>> no ADB.   
   >>>>>>> The Smart Switch Android app can transfer to another phone by Wi-   
   >>>>>>> Fi or   
   >>>>>>> USB and can backup to cloud, SD-card or USB-stick.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's a Samsung app, I understand. What about a generic full   
   >>>>>> backup app, non adb? For any operating system, not Windows only?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Don't know about a Samsung App but, in Linux, I can use a 'dd'   
   >>>>> commandline command to back up both my Windows and Linux   
   >>>>> installations.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Is there a similar commandline command for Android and/or Apple Mac??   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On computing devices that support booting from a second OS, you can   
   >>>> gain "dd" access from the second OS. On my MacG4, I booted the   
   >>>> Ubuntu PPC   
   >>>> DVD, and used Ubuntu "dd" to transfer out the disk (which would be   
   >>>> at- rest).   
   >>>> I used a command line FTP session, and you can mix shell commands into   
   >>>> the ftp commands -- dd can be piped into a (binary) "put". And on   
   >>>> the computer   
   >>>> I did that on, the GbE at 112MB/sec, that's the fastest interface it   
   >>>> has got.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But something like a phone, there are fewer opportunities for tricks   
   >>>> like that.   
   >>>> Rooting the phone, if you can manage it, is as close as you're getting   
   >>>> to a good time.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On at least one phone, the NAND is hidden underneath something, and   
   >>>> you can't cable up and read-out the NAND chip with external equipment.   
   >>>> For some of the devices, it's pretty well secured. You would not expect   
   >>>> a simple trick to work in such a case.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Paul   
   >>>   
   >>> Or you could just use the "dd" command built into the Unix sub-system   
   >>> of every Mac since Mac OS X was first released in 2001...   
   >>   
   >> Not on a phone.   
   >>   
   >   
   > You seem to be a little hard of reading:   
   >   
   > "Is there a similar commandline command [] or Apple Mac??"   
   >   
   > "On my MacG4, I booted the Ubuntu PPC DVD, and used Ubuntu "dd" to   
   > transfer out the disk (which would be at- rest)."   
   >   
   > But of those make direct reference to a Mac.   
   >   
      
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   aren't even sentences.   
      
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