XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-04-16 22:26, Alan wrote:   
   > On 2025-04-16 05:28, Paul wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 4/16/2025 6:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>> On 15/04/2025 6:01 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-04-14 17:48, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   >>>>> Arno Welzel  wrote:   
   >>>>>> Arno Welzel, 2025-04-14 13:18:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-13 15:57:   
   >>>>>> [...]   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> Yes, I agree, that Android has the flexibility to user other   
   >>>>>> methods as   
   >>>>>> well, like backup apps, ADB and so on - but this needs enough   
   >>>>>> experience   
   >>>>>> by the user like how to set up ADB on a computer or how to   
   >>>>>> transfer the   
   >>>>>> backup to another device using USB and so on.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     The methods I mentioned do not require the user to setup ADB. The   
   >>>>> Smart Switch Android-to-Windows backup does use a USB-cable, but no   
   >>>>> ADB.   
   >>>>> The Smart Switch Android app can transfer to another phone by Wi-Fi or   
   >>>>> USB and can backup to cloud, SD-card or USB-stick.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's a Samsung app, I understand. What about a generic full backup   
   >>>> app, non adb? For any operating system, not Windows only?   
   >>>   
   >>> Don't know about a Samsung App but, in Linux, I can use a 'dd'   
   >>> commandline command to back up both my Windows and Linux installations.   
   >>>   
   >>> Is there a similar commandline command for Android and/or Apple Mac??   
   >>   
   >> On computing devices that support booting from a second OS, you can   
   >> gain "dd" access from the second OS. On my MacG4, I booted the Ubuntu PPC   
   >> DVD, and used Ubuntu "dd" to transfer out the disk (which would be at-   
   >> rest).   
   >> I used a command line FTP session, and you can mix shell commands into   
   >> the ftp commands -- dd can be piped into a (binary) "put". And on the   
   >> computer   
   >> I did that on, the GbE at 112MB/sec, that's the fastest interface it   
   >> has got.   
   >>   
   >> But something like a phone, there are fewer opportunities for tricks   
   >> like that.   
   >> Rooting the phone, if you can manage it, is as close as you're getting   
   >> to a good time.   
   >>   
   >> On at least one phone, the NAND is hidden underneath something, and   
   >> you can't cable up and read-out the NAND chip with external equipment.   
   >> For some of the devices, it's pretty well secured. You would not expect   
   >> a simple trick to work in such a case.   
   >>   
   >>     Paul   
   >   
   > Or you could just use the "dd" command built into the Unix sub-system of   
   > every Mac since Mac OS X was first released in 2001...   
      
   Not on a phone.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
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