XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-04-16 15:54, Hank Rogers wrote:   
   > Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2025-04-16 14:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-04-16 22:26, Alan wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-04-16 05:28, Paul wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 4/16/2025 6:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 15/04/2025 6:01 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2025-04-14 17:48, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Arno Welzel  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> Arno Welzel, 2025-04-14 13:18:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-13 15:57:   
   >>>>>>>>> [...]   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes, I agree, that Android has the flexibility to user other   
   >>>>>>>>> methods as   
   >>>>>>>>> well, like backup apps, ADB and so on - but this needs enough   
   >>>>>>>>> experience   
   >>>>>>>>> by the user like how to set up ADB on a computer or how to   
   >>>>>>>>> transfer the   
   >>>>>>>>> backup to another device using USB and so on.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>     The methods I mentioned do not require the user to setup   
   >>>>>>>> ADB. The   
   >>>>>>>> Smart Switch Android-to-Windows backup does use a USB-cable, but   
   >>>>>>>> no ADB.   
   >>>>>>>> The Smart Switch Android app can transfer to another phone by   
   >>>>>>>> Wi- Fi or   
   >>>>>>>> USB and can backup to cloud, SD-card or USB-stick.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That's a Samsung app, I understand. What about a generic full   
   >>>>>>> backup app, non adb? For any operating system, not Windows only?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Don't know about a Samsung App but, in Linux, I can use a 'dd'   
   >>>>>> commandline command to back up both my Windows and Linux   
   >>>>>> installations.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Is there a similar commandline command for Android and/or Apple Mac??   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> On computing devices that support booting from a second OS, you can   
   >>>>> gain "dd" access from the second OS. On my MacG4, I booted the   
   >>>>> Ubuntu PPC   
   >>>>> DVD, and used Ubuntu "dd" to transfer out the disk (which would be   
   >>>>> at- rest).   
   >>>>> I used a command line FTP session, and you can mix shell commands into   
   >>>>> the ftp commands -- dd can be piped into a (binary) "put". And on   
   >>>>> the computer   
   >>>>> I did that on, the GbE at 112MB/sec, that's the fastest interface   
   >>>>> it has got.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But something like a phone, there are fewer opportunities for   
   >>>>> tricks like that.   
   >>>>> Rooting the phone, if you can manage it, is as close as you're getting   
   >>>>> to a good time.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> On at least one phone, the NAND is hidden underneath something, and   
   >>>>> you can't cable up and read-out the NAND chip with external equipment.   
   >>>>> For some of the devices, it's pretty well secured. You would not   
   >>>>> expect   
   >>>>> a simple trick to work in such a case.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     Paul   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Or you could just use the "dd" command built into the Unix sub-   
   >>>> system of every Mac since Mac OS X was first released in 2001...   
   >>>   
   >>> Not on a phone.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You seem to be a little hard of reading:   
   >>   
   >> "Is there a similar commandline command [] or Apple Mac??"   
   >>   
   >> "On my MacG4, I booted the Ubuntu PPC DVD, and used Ubuntu "dd" to   
   >> transfer out the disk (which would be at- rest)."   
   >>   
   >> But of those make direct reference to a Mac.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Did you read this before you posted it?  Most of what you've written   
   > aren't even sentences.   
   >   
      
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