XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-04-18 10:36, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   > Marion  wrote:   
   >> On 15 Apr 2025 13:18:40 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> This PC\Frank's Galaxy A51\Internal storage\Android\data\net   
   osmand.plus\files   
   >>>   
   >>>    But 'This PC\Frank's Galaxy A51\Internal storage' is only accessible   
   >>> in File Explorer, it's not part of the normal file system, nor   
   >>> accessible as a Network Share, so you can't use normal copy or backup   
   >>> utilities. (Perhaps in Windows PowerShell one can 'program'/control File   
   >>> Explorer? No idea.)   
   >>   
   >> I will agree with anyone who says anything logically sensible, where I   
   >> agree with Frank that there must be a DIY backup mechanism to Windows.   
   >>   
   >> On the one topic of the paradoxical observation that both Frank Slootweg   
   >> and I have experienced of what can be "seen" by the PC vs the phone...   
   >>    Windows can see Android root!   
   >>   
   >> I also have been surprised when the PC can see *far* more of the Android   
   >> file system than the (non rooted) Android device itself can see.   
   >>    Look at /etc/resolv.conf   
   >>   
   >> Sure, we all know ADB can back up the system /etc/hosts file but even   
   >> without ADB, I can read (and write) to far more of the Android file system   
   >> from the PC than from the phone itself. From the Windows command line!   
   >>    cmd line access to /etc   
   >>   
   >> For example, when I mount the Android as a Windows drive letter, I can read   
   >> "almost" the entire system (not all of it - but a lot more than you'd   
   >> expect). And I can write to some of the system filesys too I think.   
   >>    Look at the dnsproxy file   
   >>   
   >> In summary, given my observation that when mounting an Android filesystem   
   >> as a drive letter on Windows that you can see far more than you'd expect to   
   >> see, one possible backup mechanism might be to use a Windows copy script.   
   >>    Windows root access!   
   >   
   >    Yes, an app on Android - in your case the WebDAV Server - can see   
   > part/most of the *root* file system, but it can't look in the   
   > *app-private data areas*: Internal storage\Android\data, etc..   
   >   
   >    So, as your last screenshot shows, you can look into the com.   
   > folders of some apps, but you will find that those are only *built-in*   
   > apps, i.e. the ones which came with the phone.   
   >   
   >    You can't get into the Internal storage\Android\data\com.   
   > folders of *user-installed* apps.   
   >   
   >    So this method is no solution for Android full backup, because it   
   > can't backup the most important part, the user data and settings.   
      
   Imagine that:   
      
   Arlen not speaking "only facts".   
      
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