XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: this@ddress.is.invalid   
      
   Marion  wrote:   
   > On 15 Apr 2025 13:18:40 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :   
   >   
   >   
   > > This PC\Frank's Galaxy A51\Internal storage\Android\data\net   
   osmand.plus\files   
   > >   
   > >   But 'This PC\Frank's Galaxy A51\Internal storage' is only accessible   
   > > in File Explorer, it's not part of the normal file system, nor   
   > > accessible as a Network Share, so you can't use normal copy or backup   
   > > utilities. (Perhaps in Windows PowerShell one can 'program'/control File   
   > > Explorer? No idea.)   
   >   
   > I will agree with anyone who says anything logically sensible, where I   
   > agree with Frank that there must be a DIY backup mechanism to Windows.   
   >   
   > On the one topic of the paradoxical observation that both Frank Slootweg   
   > and I have experienced of what can be "seen" by the PC vs the phone...   
   >   Windows can see Android root!   
   >   
   > I also have been surprised when the PC can see *far* more of the Android   
   > file system than the (non rooted) Android device itself can see.   
   >   Look at /etc/resolv.conf   
   >   
   > Sure, we all know ADB can back up the system /etc/hosts file but even   
   > without ADB, I can read (and write) to far more of the Android file system   
   > from the PC than from the phone itself. From the Windows command line!   
   >   cmd line access to /etc   
   >   
   > For example, when I mount the Android as a Windows drive letter, I can read   
   > "almost" the entire system (not all of it - but a lot more than you'd   
   > expect). And I can write to some of the system filesys too I think.   
   >   Look at the dnsproxy file   
   >   
   > In summary, given my observation that when mounting an Android filesystem   
   > as a drive letter on Windows that you can see far more than you'd expect to   
   > see, one possible backup mechanism might be to use a Windows copy script.   
   >   Windows root access!   
      
     Yes, an app on Android - in your case the WebDAV Server - can see   
   part/most of the *root* file system, but it can't look in the   
   *app-private data areas*: Internal storage\Android\data, etc..   
      
     So, as your last screenshot shows, you can look into the com.   
   folders of some apps, but you will find that those are only *built-in*   
   apps, i.e. the ones which came with the phone.   
      
     You can't get into the Internal storage\Android\data\com.   
   folders of *user-installed* apps.   
      
     So this method is no solution for Android full backup, because it   
   can't backup the most important part, the user data and settings.   
      
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