From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-08-01 15:41, Paul wrote:   
   > On Fri, 8/1/2025 8:02 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:   
   >>> On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)   
   >>   
   >> Sure?   
   >>   
   >> My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector   
   for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.   
   >>   
   >> Google confirms:   
   >>   
   >> AI Overview   
   >> ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!   
   >> The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in   
   speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps from a   
   connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate system status or   
   errors during the boot    
   process, similar to other ASUS motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI   
   BIOS and can help diagnose problems.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > OEM boards, like a Dell motherboard, they use a piezo beeper, black in color,   
   > the size of a quarter or so. It is soldered to the board.   
   >   
   > Retail motherboards use a small speaker, the small speaker is SUPPOSED to be   
   > in the computer case. However, costly fancy computer cases don't have the   
   > speaker any more. The speaker is "8 ohm 0.25W" as printed on the back.   
      
   Yes. Exactly my experience.   
      
   >   
   > This means, users are ripping the speaker out of older computers and   
   > stuffing the speaker into a new computer (while they debug).   
      
   Well, Amazon sold me a bag of such speakers/beepers for a trifle.   
      
   >   
   > My newest PC, is using the beep speaker pulled from an Apple computer :-)   
   > The tones sound so much better, when they come from an Apple Speaker.   
   > The sounds are "richer" :-)   
      
   :-DDD   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
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