From: vallor@cultnix.org
On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:21:52 -0400, bad sector
wrote in :
> On 9/23/25 3:44 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 20:30:37 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>>
>>> At first I couldn't get qpwgraph for tumbleweed but now 0.8.1-1.2-x86_64
>>> is installed, also asked chatgpt how to do it. It came back with a long
>>> list of options ...
>>
>> I don’t know what we’re supposed to do about this. The AI gives you an
>> answer, but it’s not enough? You want us to say whether the AI is right or
>> wrong? Why not just ask the AI itself, while you’re at it?
>
>
> I just didn't want to give the impression of someone who asks a question
> and then never comes back. Anyway, all my related problenms seem to
> arise from various hardware/software devs decision to make default the
> muting of speaker ports when headphones are plugged in without providing
> controls suitable for average users to unmute them if they want to use
> several output ports. Seems to me that much like a printer when sound
> hardware is plugged in it's because the user wants to hear it (or at
> least have the controls to select it for simultaneous use).
>
> So on a hunch I tried ChatGPT with this question:
>
> "On an Asus x870e proart creator motherboard using linux with pipewire
> and qpwgraph and an Asus Xonar sound card, how to prevent the use of a
> headphone audio port on the sound-card from blocking simultaneous use of
> the 'speakers' port of the sound-card?"
>
> It came back with a multiple step procedure the first two of which don't
> work so the rest can't either. I disabled onboard HD-Audio and went at it...
>
>
> Step 1: Check ALSA auto-mute setting
>
> # alsamixer
> Select your Xonar card (press F6 to choose the card).
> Look for Auto-Mute, Jack Detection, or Headphone Jack Sense.
>
> There's not one such entry there.
>
>
>
> Step 2: Expose both ports to PipeWire
>
> #pw-cli ls Node | grep -A20 Xonar
> (this one returns nothing)
>
> #pw-cli
> Welcome to PipeWire version 1.4.8. Type 'help' for usage.
>>> remote 0 is named 'pipewire-0'
> Error: "unsupported type PipeWire:Interface:SecurityContext"
> Error: "unsupported type PipeWire:Interface:Profiler"
>
> #pipewire-0 list sinks | grep -A20 'Xonar'
> pipewire-0: command not found
>
>
> ..OR..
>
> #pactl list sinks | grep -A20 'Xonar'
> (this one returns nothing)
>
> but using capitalised XONAR does:
>
> https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/5dd98b9ece6b
>
> still there's nothing about speaker or headphones in that.
>
> Moreover at this stage the sound card isn't producing any sound at all
> on speakers OR in headphones together or separately.
>
> That's it for tonight, tomorrow I'll maybe try the ChatGPT bit using
> only the on-board audio.
If you're not getting _any_ sound out of the card, you might have
to configure it to do analog (instead of SPDIF), since the first
mode seems to be 8ch.
pavucontrol is the tool I use to set those things, under the "Configuration"
tab. You may see the digital modes listed as "IEC958".
You can also select your default output for playback in the "Output Devices"
tab, then try playing something. Because if you can't get sound out of the
card _at all_, then it seems to me that that's the first step to
troubleshoot.
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