XPost: uk.comp.os.linux, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: this@ddress.is.invalid   
      
   VanguardLH  wrote:   
   > Anssi Saari  wrote:   
   >   
   > > VanguardLH  writes:   
   > >   
   > >> Anssi Saari  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>> Dan Purgert  writes:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> Win10, 11 have that "FastBoot" thing that mucks with hardware releases   
   > >>>> on "reboot" (win basically goes into hibernate).   
   > >>>   
   > >>> No. Reboot is always reboot, Windows would be completely useless without   
   > >>> that. "FastBoot" aka fast startup happens when shutting down if not   
   > >>> disabled. And it's hibernate without hibernating apps so fairly useless.   
   > >>   
   > >> Actually Fast Starup is a full hibernate (all memory copied into the   
   > >> hyberfil.sys file).   
   > >   
   > > Source? For example here:   
   > > https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/weg/   
   elivering-a-great-startup-and-shutdown-experience   
   > > "Starting with Windows 8.x, the default shutdown and restart scenario   
   > > has been updated and named fast startup. Fast startup begins with the   
   > > shutdown process and includes writing data to disk similar to the   
   > > hibernate process. A key difference is that all user sessions (Session   
   > > 1) are logged off and the remaining information is written to the   
   > > hiberfile."   
   > >   
   > > When user sessions are logged off, all user apps die and so aren't   
   > > written to the hiberfil.sys, which, as I stated, makes this "fast   
   > > startup" fairly useless.   
   >   
   > Depends on whether or not you chose to sleep (whether manually   
   > instigated, or by idle timeout) or shutdown while Fast Startup (aka   
   > FastBoot) was enabled.   
      
   [Fast Startup doesn't affect 'sleep'. See more below.]   
      
   > On sleep, Fast Startup saves an image of memory into the hiberfil.sys   
   > file.  That's in case power is lost during sleep which means a reboot is   
   > needed, so the hiberfil.sys file is used to write back the memory image   
   > on the boot.  If power is not lost during sleep mode, well, you just   
   > resume out of sleep mode.   
      
     With "On sleep", you probably mean on Shutdown, because when Fast   
   Startup is enabled, it only affects, what happens during shutdown   
   (does a hibernate  of the OS, not the user session, etc.) and what   
   happens during boot/power-up (resumes from the hibernated system copy),   
   it does not affect what happens during sleep.   
      
     Also the "That's in case power is lost during sleep" is misleading,   
   because that's not the/a reason for Fast Startup, I even doubt that Fast   
   Startup will use the hibernated system copy when rebooting/powering-on   
   after a power loss, because  the system might have been changed since   
   the time of the *previous* shutdown, so the hibernated system copy might   
   be stale/invalid.   
      
   [Much more of the same, IMO also not fully correct, deleted.]   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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