XPost: alt.windows95, alt.windows98   
   From: chris.brogan@thefreeinternet.co.uk   
      
   Thanks for your prompt reply Bruce.   
      
   I'm not sure, off the top of my head, which version of 98 they have.  I   
   think it had Windows98 Release 2 or something on it?   
      
   Part of the problem of keeping 95 is the fact that very little new software   
   works with it - but if you say you can install 95 over itself, then I think   
   we will go that route.   
      
   If I understand correctly then, we can simply put the original 95 disk in   
   and run install (or whatever it uses for reinstalling?)  Is that correct?   
      
   We have done a backup of critical documents, etc.   
      
   This is the original disk so I'm assuming we shouldn't hit any major   
   problems?  They did have a new hard drive put in at some stage - a long   
   while ago - but assume the original 95 software was put on.   
      
   What else would cause this problem?  I guess it's liking looking for a   
   needle in a haystack!   
   "Bruce Morgen"  wrote in message   
   news:9p4ah0dnj33c847pvbmllladaras5c25br@4ax.com...   
   > "Chris B"  wrote:   
   >   
   > >A friend is running a PC on Windows95.  She has not viruses, trojans,   
   etc.   
   > >and tons of space.   
   > >   
   > >Recently (3 months) the PC has had problems starting up.  It gets there   
   > >eventually but it takes roughly 20 minutes to start.  After it's started,   
   it   
   > >all runs perfectly - except the printer and backup tape periodically   
   stops   
   > >working altogether.   
   > >   
   > >I would imagine that Windows needs reinstalling?   
   >   
   > Maybe.   
   > >   
   > >However, two questions:   
   > >   
   > >1.  Can Windows95 be installed over itself without having to format disk   
   > >etc.   
   >   
   > Yes.   
   > >   
   > >2.  I know you can install Windows98 over 95.  They have a Windows98 disk   
   > >(which belongs to an old laptop).   Can they use this disk - or will this   
   > >present problems   
   >   
   > I wouldn't install that unless   
   > it's Win98 SE -- Win95 OSR2 is   
   > more stable than the original   
   > edition of Win98 in my   
   > experience.  Here's how to use   
   > an OEM Win98/ME CD to upgrade   
   > a Win95 installation:   
   >   
   > UPGRADE #1   
   > #1 Upgrading Windows 9x/Me when you get an Error Message SUO168.   
   >   
   > Caution: It's possible some OEM upgrade versions may be specific to them.   
   Using a different OEM   
   > full version to upgrade a non-matching Windows could possibly damage the   
   existing Windows. That   
   > would force you to reinstall the current Windows with subsequent loss of   
   data. It's a possibility,   
   > so please be aware of it!   
   >   
   > It has never failed to work for THPC.   
   >   
   > How to install if Error Message SUO168 occurs:   
   >   
   > Use your bootdisk to boot to true MS-DOS   
   > Do not use Windows Explorer, or a DOS Prompt or 'DOS Box'.   
   > Press Enter after typing in each of these in true DOS   
   >    C:   
   >    CD\   
   >    CD WINDOWS (or the name of the existing Windows directory)   
   >    ren win.com win.ada   
   >    ren winver.exe winver.ada   
   > Now install the OEM version to the existing Win 9x/Me directory (usually   
   C:\Windows).   
   > If your current installation directory is called Windows then Setup will   
   attempt to install the CD   
   > Windows to Windows.000. Change this to the existing Win 9x/Me directory   
   (usually C:\Windows).   
   >   
   > You can also rename in this matter if attempting to setup a dual-boot (but   
   read Dual-Boot Win9x+9x   
   > first.   
   >   
   > [top of page]   
   >   
   >   
   > UPGRADE #2   
   > #2 Upgrading Windows 9x/Me when you get an Error Message SUO168.   
   >   
   > This second method, from Microsoft, has not been tested by THPC.   
   >   
   > Microsoft explains how to manage this in Setup.txt (on the CD). Microsoft   
   says:   
   >   
   > Message SU0168   
   > " Your computer already has an operating system installed, which cannot be   
   upgraded by this version   
   > of Setup. Please obtain the Windows 98 (or Windows Millennium) Upgrade."   
   >   
   > This error can occur when you are attempting to install an OEM version of   
   Windows 98 over a   
   > previous version of Windows.   
   > -or-   
   > An application has installed an OEM version of SetupX.dll that makes it   
   appear that your current   
   > version of Windows is the OEM version.   
   >   
   > If you suspect this, replace SetupX.dll with the correct version from your   
   current install media.   
   > 1. Place your Windows 98 or Windows Millennium CD in your CD-ROM drive.   
   > 2. From a command prompt, change to your CD-ROM drive letter.   
   > 3. Type Extract /a base4.cab SetupX.dll /l C:\   
   > 4. Copy the SetupX.dll from your C: to your Windows\System directory.   
   > 5. Run Windows Setup again. "   
   > >   
   > >Any assistance would be appreciated.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >Chris   
   > >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
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