XPost: alt.windows95, alt.windows98
From: chris.brogan@thefreeinternet.co.uk
Many thanks -all this information is much appreciated
"Bruce Morgen" wrote in message
news:hoidh0560p1ie50ouf2qg16f1ev5m3d7u7@4ax.com...
> "Chris B" wrote:
>
> >One more query re reinstalling Win95.
> >
> >Will it be necessary to reload any programs after - i.e. Office, Nortons,
> >etc.
> >
> >I could have sworn it wasn't that easy with Win95 but you could do it
with
> >Win98.
> >
> >Just double-checking before I go ahead!
> >
> Iirc re-running setup from
> the CD-ROM doesn't affect
> any program installations
> -- it's essentially a
> "repair existing system"
> operation rather than an
> actual reinstall. Just
> don't FDISK or FORMAT
> anything along the way and
> it should work out fine,
> although there's no way to
> know if it will fix your
> slow booting problem.
>
> >Many thanks
>
> If it's basic enough for me
> to understand, I'm always
> glad to help. Good luck!
>
>
> >"Bruce Morgen" wrote in message
> >news:m77ah0ht3q420hpqk8t1fmicshrg3pvlhh@4ax.com...
> >> "Chris B" wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thanks for your prompt reply Bruce.
> >> >
> >> >I'm not sure, off the top of my head, which version of 98 they have.
I
> >> >think it had Windows98 Release 2 or something on it?
> >>
> >> If the CD has the phrase
> >> "Second Edition" on it,
> >> that's Win98 SE and it
> >> should work fine.
> >> >
> >> >Part of the problem of keeping 95 is the fact that very little new
> >software
> >> >works with it - but if you say you can install 95 over itself, then I
> >think
> >> >we will go that route.
> >>
> >> A lot of software that
> >> claims to need Win98 or
> >> later will actually run
> >> under Win95 -- sometimes
> >> a few (usually minor)
> >> features don't work, but
> >> the program will
> >> generally be usable.
> >> >
> >> >If I understand correctly then, we can simply put the original 95 disk
in
> >> >and run install (or whatever it uses for reinstalling?) Is that
correct?
> >> >
> >> Right -- using the Run command
> >> from the Start menu, type
> >> "x:setup" where "x" is the
> >> drive letter of the CD-ROM
> >> drive. Make sure you have
> >> the serial number in hand
> >> before doing this, you may
> >> be asked for it along the
> >> way.
> >>
> >> >We have done a backup of critical documents, etc.
> >>
> >> Good move!
> >> >
> >> >This is the original disk so I'm assuming we shouldn't hit any major
> >> >problems? They did have a new hard drive put in at some stage - a
long
> >> >while ago - but assume the original 95 software was put on.
> >> >
> >> A sensible guess.
> >>
> >> >What else would cause this problem? I guess it's liking looking for a
> >> >needle in a haystack!
> >>
> >> Try pressing F8 during
> >> boot-up and then use
> >> the step-by-step option,
> >> answering yes to each
> >> prompt -- that may help
> >> you narrow down what's
> >> taking so long to load.
> >>
> >> >"Bruce Morgen" wrote in message
> >> >news:9p4ah0dnj33c847pvbmllladaras5c25br@4ax.com...
> >> >> "Chris B" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >A friend is running a PC on Windows95. She has not viruses,
trojans,
> >> >etc.
> >> >> >and tons of space.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Recently (3 months) the PC has had problems starting up. It gets
> >there
> >> >> >eventually but it takes roughly 20 minutes to start. After it's
> >started,
> >> >it
> >> >> >all runs perfectly - except the printer and backup tape
periodically
> >> >stops
> >> >> >working altogether.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I would imagine that Windows needs reinstalling?
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >However, two questions:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >1. Can Windows95 be installed over itself without having to format
> >disk
> >> >> >etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >2. I know you can install Windows98 over 95. They have a
Windows98
> >disk
> >> >> >(which belongs to an old laptop). Can they use this disk - or
will
> >this
> >> >> >present problems
> >> >>
> >> >> I wouldn't install that unless
> >> >> it's Win98 SE -- Win95 OSR2 is
> >> >> more stable than the original
> >> >> edition of Win98 in my
> >> >> experience. Here's how to use
> >> >> an OEM Win98/ME CD to upgrade
> >> >> a Win95 installation:
> >> >>
> >> >> UPGRADE #1
> >> >> #1 Upgrading Windows 9x/Me when you get an Error Message SUO168.
> >> >>
> >> >> Caution: It's possible some OEM upgrade versions may be specific to
> >them.
> >> >Using a different OEM
> >> >> full version to upgrade a non-matching Windows could possibly damage
> >the
> >> >existing Windows. That
> >> >> would force you to reinstall the current Windows with subsequent
loss
> >of
> >> >data. It's a possibility,
> >> >> so please be aware of it!
> >> >>
> >> >> It has never failed to work for THPC.
> >> >>
> >> >> How to install if Error Message SUO168 occurs:
> >> >>
> >> >> Use your bootdisk to boot to true MS-DOS
> >> >> Do not use Windows Explorer, or a DOS Prompt or 'DOS Box'.
> >> >> Press Enter after typing in each of these in true DOS
> >> >> C:
> >> >> CD\
> >> >> CD WINDOWS (or the name of the existing Windows directory)
> >> >> ren win.com win.ada
> >> >> ren winver.exe winver.ada
> >> >> Now install the OEM version to the existing Win 9x/Me directory
> >(usually
> >> >C:\Windows).
> >> >> If your current installation directory is called Windows then Setup
> >will
> >> >attempt to install the CD
> >> >> Windows to Windows.000. Change this to the existing Win 9x/Me
directory
> >> >(usually C:\Windows).
> >> >>
> >> >> You can also rename in this matter if attempting to setup a
dual-boot
> >(but
> >> >read Dual-Boot Win9x+9x
> >> >> first.
> >> >>
> >> >> [top of page]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> UPGRADE #2
> >> >> #2 Upgrading Windows 9x/Me when you get an Error Message SUO168.
> >> >>
> >> >> This second method, from Microsoft, has not been tested by THPC.
> >> >>
> >> >> Microsoft explains how to manage this in Setup.txt (on the CD).
> >Microsoft
> >> >says:
> >> >>
> >> >> Message SU0168
> >> >> " Your computer already has an operating system installed, which
cannot
> >be
> >> >upgraded by this version
> >> >> of Setup. Please obtain the Windows 98 (or Windows Millennium)
> >Upgrade."
> >> >>
> >> >> This error can occur when you are attempting to install an OEM
version
> >of
> >> >Windows 98 over a
> >> >> previous version of Windows.
> >> >> -or-
> >> >> An application has installed an OEM version of SetupX.dll that makes
it
> >> >appear that your current
> >> >> version of Windows is the OEM version.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you suspect this, replace SetupX.dll with the correct version
from
> >your
> >> >current install media.
> >> >> 1. Place your Windows 98 or Windows Millennium CD in your CD-ROM
drive.
> >> >> 2. From a command prompt, change to your CD-ROM drive letter.
> >> >> 3. Type Extract /a base4.cab SetupX.dll /l C:\
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