From: bashley101+et@gmail.com   
      
   Pastor Dave wrote:   
      
   >  spake thusly:   
   >> The Real Bev wrote:   
   >>> Pastor Dave wrote:   
   >>>>  spake thusly:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I use a KVM switch to switch between my linux and xp machines, and   
   >>>>> log into the xp machine with linux to do various things.  I have   
   >>>>> shared some of my xp subdirectories.  I was going to use linux to   
   >>>>> run a backup of my xp machine to an external HD, but I don't want to   
   >>>>> permanently share my entire c:\ drive.  I couldn't figure out how to   
   >>>>> un-share a previously-shared subdirectory. Is it conceivable that   
   >>>>> there IS no way to do this or am I just looking in the wrong places?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Huh? :)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Are you asking how to unshare a folder from within Windows, or Linux?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If it's Windows, just right click on the folder and go to "Sharing and   
   >>>> Security".   
   >>>   
   >>> Thanks, that rates a big 'DUH!' on my part. I might have seen that   
   >>> screen before long ago, but it's not the one that I used to share the   
   >>> subdirectory I wanted to share.  I think the one I used was on the fifth   
   >>> tab, but of course I can't find it now. OTOH, I don't need to.   
      
   BTW, I found it.  It pops up when you click on the simpler page that you click   
   on to initiate sharing, possibly from the 'properties' link.  Double duh.   
      
   >>> Thanks again!   
   >>   
   >> An additional question:  I'm sharing my entire c:\ drive (~30gig) and it's   
   >> been chugging away for 15 minutes already.  Is it conceivably changing the   
   >> permissions on every single file individually?   
   >   
   > It will change the permissions on all subfolders and files, but you can   
   > individually set file permissions.  If you remember, a little box came up   
   > asking you if you wanted to apply the permissions to the subfolders.   
      
   I don't think I saw that -- the little folders just started flying.   
      
   > I highly recommend AGAINST sharing your entire C: drive! If someone does   
   > hack into your network, EVERYTHING is up for grabs and they can bring your   
   > system down! Especially since when sharing it, you're probably giving read &   
   > write access to the folders, right?   
      
   Of course, why else do it?   
      
   The intent was to copy the contents of a friend's USB windows drive (her   
   photos) to a linux machine.  I was just using my own machine to test the   
   syntax, which is not necessarily all that obvious, and I have only one   
   drive/partition on my winmachine (aside from the HP restore partition, which   
   warned me that any change might destroy my ability to restore my system -- like   
   it would actually work anyway if I needed it!). For some reason I couldn't   
   share the DVD drive.  There's actually no reason to do that, but it seemed   
   safer than using c:\.   
      
   Unsharing happened instantaneously, but when I wanted to shut the machine down   
   it refused.  Everything else worked, it simply refused to shut down.   
   Ultimately I just flipped the switch on the power strip (I hate doing that, you   
   never know what's going to hit the fan).  No problem this time.  I've never   
   seen that happen before, though.   
      
   > Please reconsider this move, Bev.  You don't have to wait for it to go   
   > through all that again.  You can just "unshare" the drive and then just   
   > share the folders that you want shared.  In fact, if you're running XP, it   
   > even has a folder called "Shared Documents" that will allow you to keep   
   > files that you would normally keep in your "My Documents" folder in that   
   > folder and share them across your network, while you keep that type of files   
   > that you don't want shared across the whole network in the "My Documents"   
   > folder on each machine.  You can also share certain other folders, like a   
   > music folder that you create, etc..   
      
   My winmachine knows nothing about my linux machine, but I have a c:\share   
   directory that I use to transfer stuff back and forth.  Not that common an   
   occurrence, so that system works well enough.  I have a deep distrust of   
   filenames with spaces and avoid using them whenever possible.  8+3 ought to be   
   good enough for anybody!  (Well, no, not really, long filenames are actually   
   useful, but I draw the line at spaces and special characters!)   
      
   > The best network setup is a dedicated server and clients, rater than peer to   
   > peer.  But you can use a peer to peer and just use one of the machines as if   
   > it were a server, leaving that one on, but still using it if you want to.   
      
   The winmachine uses my machine as a gateway.  Ultimately we have 7 machines in   
   the wired network and can flip on a wireless router when we want to tweak the   
   laptop.  There's not a lot of commonality of function among the machines, so   
   the server idea isn't all that useful.  One of the machines is a music/movie   
   server which plugs into the TV/sound system, and we can control that from any   
   of the other machines.   
      
   > Another solution is to get an NAS, which is basically a hard drive in a   
   > small box that you set up via a web interface, like your router, which uses   
   > a Linux based file system (since you know Linux, this should not be a   
   > problem) and everyone can access that from their computer and you can leave   
   > just that little box on and you don't have to leave any PC's on, to be able   
   > to access files from another PC, nor do you have to know about Windows   
   > sharing.  And you only put files on it that you want to share and can set up   
   > folders for each user, or group and limit the access of whom can get at   
   > what, from the NAS itself. :)   
   >   
   > This will also solve your "backup" problem, since   
      
   Actually, I don't have a backup problem -- I've got 6 rotating backup   
   partitions for my REAL machine plus a 500gig USB drive for my linux machine,   
   and the only serious stuff I have on my winmachine is my tax software, and I   
   copied a backup of my return files to the linux machine.  I suppose I should   
   make a backup of the winmachine, which I'll do by sharing the c:\ drive again   
   and then just use linux to copy everything to a partition on a USB drive.   
      
   > the NAS will have its own drive and you can put like a 1TB drive in there   
   > (not all of them support drives that big though) and copy any files you wish   
   > to, into a private backup folder that only you can access from your machine.   
   >   
   > What is an NAS?   
   >   
   > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage   
   >   
   > Here are links to some NAS prices and reviews.   
   >   
   > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nas+review&cts=1246088041   
   40&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10   
   >   
   > If you go this way, they're not expensive, but don't cheap out too much and   
      
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