From: laura@nospam.me
"personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk" wrote in message
news:41cf8d21$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> "David Mitchell" wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.24.08.22.17.347281@edenroad.demon.co.uk...
> > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:59:43 -0600, personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk wrote:
> >
> >> Here it is:
> >> The # of the beast is 666. Now, seriously, the one thing that has
> >> *changed* the world the *most* since the life of Christ is -- the
> >> Internet.
> >
> > Not organic fertilisers, the discovery of America, non-networked
> > computers,
> > atomic weapons, electricity, modern medicine, gunpowder (in the west)...
>
> Fertilizers do not touch everyone on every continent. America has little
to
> no effect upon the more remote and isolated regions of the world.
> All these things you mention are *localized* -- whereas the Net is
literally
> world-wide, even Satellite-wide.
>
> >> bear with me now... this gets really abstract... So: we had the
> >> creation of the world, the flood in the time of Noah, the life, death,
> >> and resurrection of the Christ, and now... we have the Internet,
> >> bringing people from all over the entire world together in a common
> >> "cloud."
> >>
> >> How does this relate to 666?
> >
> > By a process of selective attention and faulty reasoning.
>
> Ya gots to learn to take those leaps, son...
>
> >> Simple: Unix.
> >> An enormous percentage of servers on the Net run in Unix, mostly
because
> >> it was the primary language before Windows.
> >
> > The phrase you're after is "Operating System". And you _teach_ people?
>
> I "teach" in common words. Half (or more!) of the people who actually use
> computers don't even know what an "operating system" IS, much less which
one
> is ON their computer(s) *right now!*
>
> >> All files (and directories, which are also "files") have a set of
> >> permissions assigned to them: Read, Write, and Modify (or sometimes
> >> Execute).
> >
> > Always execute (or directory access). "Modify" _is_ write. What else
> > could it be? Nothing else modifies it.
>
> No, modify is modify. Write is write. A modify permission gives someone
> the ability to modify the actual *permissions*, depending upon how the OS
is
> set up. And yes, I've been there, so don't even presume to lecture me. A
> person who's been granted modify permissions can modify a file or folder
to
> the extent that -- they can no longer modify it -- merely by removing
their
> own modify permission.
>
> > From "man chmod" the bits represent:
> > read, write, execute (or access for directories)
>
> right. I said: "(or sometimes execute)" -- depends upon which version
(not
> to mention YEAR) of Unix you're working with.
>
> >> Confused yet? Here's where it starts to make sense:
> >>
> >> Every file has THREE sets of permissions: one for the self (primary
> >> author of the file) one for the group (people associated with the
file's
> >> author) and one for the world (Joe Bag o' Doughnuts and his neighbors).
> >>
> >> Here is an example of how your CREDIT card permissions are represented
> >> via Unix:
> >> rw- rw- rw- , or 666.
> >
> > Proving only, IMO, that Brian Kernigan has a really dark sense of
humour.
>
> I'll agree with your comment pertaining to his sense of humor, and I agree
> you're entitled to your own opinion.
>
> >> the bank (author of the card) has the right to read and write to your
> >> bank account. They can add or subtract funds to your account, but they
> >> can't "just create" funds out of thin air (that would be "modify").
>
> >> Even a correction or payment or debit is still a read / write function.
> >
> > You're talking nonsense again Dick.
> > What you are claiming is that every account is a separate file, each
with
> > its own permission, and that's just tosh.
>
> David: this is for demonstration and *entertainment* purposes only, with
> perhaps an ounce of enlightenment, so lighten up. Of course every account
> is a separate file, with its own records and fields. That's why they are
> "individual accounts" -- The fact that these files make up a larger
database
> is inconsequential. To wit, each merchant who transacts a card has its
own
> account.
>
> >> Now, the funny thing is, the only people who can make *modifications*
to
> >> *anything* financial are top-level government officials in the treasury
> >> department or some secret organizations who can create bank accounts
out
> >> of thin air. These folk have permissions on things that include read,
> >> write, AND modify: or 777, which is the "perfect number" of the
Christ,
> >> so it's said.
> >
> > More nonsense. You really don't have a clue do you?
>
> Hey... let's hear your *better* theory on Apocalyptic interpretations of
666
> and 777, eh? I'm all ears.
>
I just heard one the other day. Not any better, though, but here it is:
WWW = 666
Because the numeric value of W in Hebrew numerology is 6.
That is, until one considers that, first of all, there is no W in the Hebrew
alphabet - there is V, and that isn't pronounced anything like W. U would be
a better candidate.
Second, Hebrew numerology doesn't care about the sequence of numbers in a
figure, since the way it works is that all the numbers are added together.
If the result is more than one digit, it is done again, until there is only
one digit left.
6+6+6 = 18 = 9
9 is a divine number.
:-)
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