From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 12:39:08 -0600, personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk wrote:   
      
   > "David Mitchell" wrote in message   
   > news:pan.2004.12.31.08.05.58.805383@edenroad.demon.co.uk...   
   >   
   > My statements are based upon my past experiences, and as such are not   
   > subject to determinations of "right or wrong" -- they are what they are,   
      
   Wrong, in this case.   
   Of course they can be right or wrong - they're memories.   
      
   > and I am the sole authority on what I have experienced.   
      
   I completely agree that you are the sole authority of what your memories   
   tell you.   
      
   But that's not the point - your memory isn't perfect.   
      
   > What you fail   
   > to grasp is that people have their own authority over their own   
   > experiences, and you insist on *trying* to deny them the truths of their   
   > own past.   
      
   No Dick, I'm proving that your memory is fallible, and that you sometimes   
   make mistakes in reasoning.   
      
   > This makes you a fuck-wit, nothing else.   
      
   Still "trying" to be polite, I see.   
      
   > If this were a TECH   
   > bulletin board, then yes, your points would be FAR more valid and useful   
   > to people out there working on real problems, whereas my comments would   
   > be anecdotal at best, and only useful to perhaps one tenth of one   
   > percent of the readers who may have an issue with a much older version   
   > of Unix.   
      
   Where something is posted has no bearing on whether it's right or wrong,   
   nor does how "useful" it is.   
      
   > At MTSU, I had the privilege of studying under people who were   
   > around when the Net was *invented* back in the   
   > military-and-university-only days.   
      
   Ah, the old appeal to authority.   
      
   >> You aren't explaining, you're asserting - there's a difference.   
   >   
   > One that you seem incapable of accepting.   
      
   Don't be silly: I can clearly discern that there's a difference - what you   
   appear to be trying now is to say that it doesn't really matter that   
   you're wrong (presumably because it's not a "TECH" newsgroup).   
      
   Nice try; but facts are facts Dick. You stated a fact, I showed you it   
   was wrong, and pasted extracts from reliable sources to support my claim.   
   Your only counter seems to be that your personal experience is a _more_   
   reliable guide to reality (yes we're back on that again), than the actual   
   facts - which is absurd - and that I shouldn't even try to challenge your   
   experience because that would be 'denying you the truth of your own past'.   
      
   I can't even begin to tell you how stupid and contemptible I find such   
   behaviour.   
      
   >> Not being willing to believe you over the evidence supplied by the   
   >> operating system itself does not make me a brick wall.   
   >   
   > Stating that MY assertions of MY OWN PAST EXPERIENCES is "wrong" makes   
   > you a brick-wall-fuck-wit.   
      
   Only if you have the belief, as you seem to have, that your   
   understanding at the time was correct, and your memory is perfect - both   
   of which are clearly untrue.   
      
   >> I have no reason to believe the "pressure of work" excuse - I've   
   >> noticed that you've bailed out before when you've lost a protracted   
   >> argument.   
   >   
   > my real life often intrudes upon my time and energy to deal with   
   > fuckwits on the net. Thus, I leave after realizing that the fuckwit in   
   > question will never be able to see my point.   
      
   Is "fuckwit" comsidered a polite expression where you come from, or are   
   you just not trying very hard?   
      
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