From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   HI all,   
      
   Just had a couple of fairly unsatisfactory experiences this morning:   
   Firstly I managed to convert the dream sound of falling plaster into   
   the vibes, then I tried to "roll out" - imagining movement didn't work,   
   but some element of will seemed to do the trick (sorry to be so vague),   
   and I felt myself to be about halfway down the side of the bed before I   
   got too excited by the success and lost it.   
      
   This felt convincingly real, I felt that I had full volition, and that I   
   was fully conscious, even though I started with a dream.   
      
   Some time later, I managed to get the vibes again, and this time hold it   
   long enough to feel as though I was completely separated.  Unfortunately I   
   had no sensory input, and although I had time to try a couple of   
   "affirmations" they didn't work.   
      
   This also felt real; but I'm not convinced that it wasn't more of a dream   
   than the first one: looking back on it memory and current experience were   
   intermingled to a greater degree than I would expect (although I find   
   this to be characteristic of the vibe state in general).   
      
   Interesting, for me at least, since I learned a few more things about   
   inducing the vibes, and that, for me at least, Monroe's advice to imagine   
   rolling out didn't seem to work, although willing it did.   
      
   Annoyingly short, however, and the lack of sensory input is very   
   frustrating - making it impossible to apply any techniques to check the   
   level of wakefulness or veracity.   
      
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