From: laura@nospam.me   
      
   "personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk"  wrote in message   
   news:41f41fd3_1@newspeer2.tds.net...   
   > "David Mitchell"  wrote in message   
   > news:pan.2005.01.23.13.42.37.412557@edenroad.demon.co.uk...   
   > > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:23:47 +0100, Laura wrote:   
   >   
   > > I'm insufficiently knowledgeable to correct you; but have you looked at   
   > > one of the alternatives to the BB: Ekpyrotic theory. While you're   
   > > Googling, look up Lee Smolin, I _love_ his ideas of universe formation   
   > > from Black Holes.   
   >   
   > I've read something of that... that black holes are popping out of   
   existence   
   > periodically, but to where?  what happens to that mass?  does it form a   
   new   
   > universe in another dimension?  are we in turn the result of a black hole   
   > that popped into creating our universe?   
   >   
   > BHs notwithstanding, I am personally convinced that quasars and black   
   holes   
   > are equal opposites of each other:  for every quasar at the edge of the   
   > universe, there is a BH somewhere near the center of the universe that   
   > corresponds to it.   
   >   
      
   But there is no center or edge of the universe in the traditional sense of   
   something you can point at in 3d space. You can point to quasars and black   
   holes, obviously, but the center of the universe is not where the black   
   holes are, nor is the edge where the quasars are. Quasars are generally   
   considered supermassive black holes of tremendous magnitude feeding on rich   
   sources of matter, emitting radiation not just from the poles as do normal   
   black holes, but from whole regions of instability caused by the enormous   
   inflow of matter. A quasar stops being a quasar when there is nothing left   
   around for it to feed on, and becomes a normal supermassive black hole. To   
   look towards the center of the universe, you simply have to look as far away   
   as possible. The longer the distance, the closer what you see is to the big   
   bang. It's no surprise that quasars are only found at immense distances,   
   since what you effectively see at such distances is a much younger universe,   
   which is much denser and hotter than now.   
   The direction to the center of the universe is back in time. We can look   
   towards the center because light has a speed.   
   The center of the universe IS the big bang. Not, as commonly misunderstood,   
   the location where the big bang WAS - that just doesn't make sense.   
      
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