From: robertjo@gmail.com   
      
       I haven't been lurking in a while because I haven't been inducing OBE's   
   lately. I've been having some unpleasant dreaming issues since July and   
   thought maybe the OBE's had something to do with it and stopped all together   
   until just now.   
       I really didn't mean to OBE. I was having one of those dreams where you   
   keep waking up, just inside another dream, and you can't seem to physically   
   get up. Once I got a handle on the whole I'm dreaming thing (I was dreaming   
   I was in a different bedroom for one thing, and younger, and with an   
   alternate history, and still the big clue I was dreaming was that the damn   
   room was actually clean) and got myself lucid I decided to project. I really   
   hate the waking up inside a dream dream, and this one was worse because   
   every time I'd get up there was a point I couldn't walk past. The idea I had   
   was astrally project, get out of my body, then get myself back in to escape   
   the dream and wake up.   
       Well the plan seemed to work without a hitch. I got myself out of bed,   
   and headed downstairs for a soda. Now there's a dog gate at the front of the   
   kitchen, sometimes it's up and sometimes it's leaning against the side of   
   the wall depending on if anyone is watching the dogs and how misbehaved   
   they're being ATM. Well when I get to the front of the kitchen, I see the   
   dog gate up, and I see the dog gate leaning against the wall. That's what   
   clued me in that I was still projecting.   
       So I concentrated on my body, got myself back there, and got up again,   
   and again, and again, and could not get the projection to end. I was doing   
   backflips where I'd land into my body with a lot of force, I thought that   
   would do the trick, but it didn't. I couldn't seem to get back in no matter   
   what.   
       Any suggestions on how to deal with this and why this happened? Getting   
   back into your body whenever you wanted to just by thinking about it was a   
   failsafe that was plastered over everything having to do with self-induced   
   OBEs when I first learned about them. And this isn't the first time I've had   
   my mind in a somewhat altered state because it was in a dream an induced an   
   OBE because I know how to do it, and I don't like the idea of now having   
   OBEs at random times when I haven't chosen to do it, and at the same time   
   not being able to stop them.   
       Sorry about any incoherencies. I'm just really tired right now and my   
   dreams are getting to me a lot more than they should lately, it's part of   
   the sleeping problem I talked about earlier, and now I'm a lot more upset   
   having a something happen in an OBE very similar to what has just upset me   
   in a dream.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)