From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:25:13 -0800, Celestial_Sounds wrote:   
      
   > Interesting question. I don't know. I would conclude first off that   
   > something I am doing is wrong, and practice and experiment trying to   
   > correct it, or to develop myself to overcome.   
      
   All good, logical, things to do.   
   But what will you do when you find yourself in the position in which   
   Janice found herself: capable almost at will of highly   
   realistic (at times) "real-world" OBE's, which are, nonetheless, not   
   objectively real?   
      
   >> Yes.  My hidden agenda is, of course, to turn you back onto science.   
   > :-)   
      
   > Would you please share what motivates you to try to 'get me on the   
   > right track'?   
      
   Lots of things, and, to be honest, it's a bit like jazz - if you don't   
   think that knowledge and understanding are valid goals in their own right,   
   then I don't think I'll ever convince you that they are.   
      
   In summary: a mind is a terrible thing to waste.   
      
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