From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:35:33 -0500, lorz wrote:   
      
   >> In summary: a mind is a terrible thing to waste.   
   >>   
   >   
   > There are those that try to do the same by claiming one must be "reborn"   
   > or "accepting Jesus!" to have knowledge and understanding too.   
   >   
   > Others would call that being fanatical, no?   
   >   
   > While I agree with *you* that Science is a *good* thing, I don't believe   
   > it should be forced any more than "Jesus!"   
      
   I disagree, to an extent.  I think that everyone should be taught some   
   simple basics of science, and techniques for critical thinking, including   
   how and when to use it in real life - whether they do so, of course, is up   
   to them thereafter.   
      
   > Nothing wrong with subjectiveness is there? As far as discussion goes.   
      
   It depends on the point of the discussion, if there is one, IMO.   
   If it's a mutual admiration society, where the goal is to inspire and   
   motivate, then by all means: bring out the nonsense.   
      
   But if anyone's looking for answers, crack open the science books!   
      
   OPMMV, of course ;-)   
      
   >   I don't believe science has all the answers either, in regards to   
   > OBE's or just plain ole dreaming for that matter.   
      
   No, it doesn't; but I suspect it has more than most people think - they   
   just refuse to accept them.   
      
   More to the point, at some time it will - a claim that a more "subjective"   
   approach will never be able to make with any authority.   
      
      
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