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   From: turner.michael@worldnet.att.net   
      
   Hey Kent, how're you doing?  Man it's been a long time!   
      
   I remember editing the Tucson newsletter like it was yesterday - scrambling   
   to learn Pagemaker, and then deciding to try something new and start a   
   written discussion group, no holds barred, any subject open for   
   consideration.  And then being astounded to find my HI reviewer telling me   
   certain subjects (e.g., Sri Darwin Gross' tenure as the Mahanta, the Living   
   Eck Master) were off limits and me (being disinclined to self-censor, and to   
   paraphrase Woody Allen) suggesting that reviewer do something that was   
   anatomically impossible.  As I recall, I went through two or three HI   
   reviewers over the course of a couple months.  But I don't recall hearing   
   about the calls to Minneapolis until now.  Too funny.   
      
   Actually, it was my challenging tenure as the newsletter editor which   
   eventually led to my starting the Sonic Spectrum - and later   
   alt.meditation.shabda - with the goal of providing a forum for students of   
   *all* Light and Sound paths and gurus (both east and west) to meet and   
   discuss the teachings in an open, free-thinking, ecumenical environment.  To   
   me it doesn't matter who you study with, so long as you are attracted to the   
   LightSong of Eternal Love that is Naam/Eck/Shabda/Holy Spirit.   
      
   So anyhow, Kent, what's been happening with you?  Are you still in Arizona?   
   I'm up in Phoenix these days, doing my best to be a good single father and   
   raise my son (he'll be four in June).  I've gotta say, parenthood -   
   especially single parenthood - is the heaviest spiritual discipline around,   
   and has taught me as muc about God, love and true devotion than all my years   
   meditating (you might say parenthood is the "co-worker" part of jivan mukti,   
   putting one's spiritual awakening into living practice).   
      
   Please feel free to drop me a line anytime: Michael112656@yahoo.ca or   
   turner.michael@worldnet.att.net   
      
   Have a great day!!   
      
   Michael Turner   
      
   "leaf"  wrote in message   
   news:1116425287.171869.222740@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   > Michael Turner wrote:   
   >> Hi Gondo,   
   >>   
   >> Thank you for your patience.  With questions like this I like to take   
   >> some time to reflect on them before writing back.   
   >>   
   >> What I was trying to say - in a sentence or two - was that you don't   
   >> need to be a per se initiate of a currently living Sant Mat Master in   
   >> order to be lifted up by Naam and taken home to God.  A devout   
   >> Christian who has been baptized in the Holy Spirit (Naam) and is pure   
   >> in heart and sincere in their devotion to Christ and the Lord can be   
   >> lifted up and guided by Christ back home as well.  In other words,   
   >> Presbyterians, Catholics, Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc.   
   >> are just as likely to be taken home to the Lord by their chosen   
   > savior   
   >> Christ Jesus as an initiate of any Light and Sound Satguru, east or   
   >> west.  It's all a matter of your devotion and dedication to being a   
   >> loving and devoted instrument for the expression of the Holy Spirit   
   > and   
   >> being willing to relax, let go and allow IT to lift you up and take   
   > you   
   >> back Home to the Eternal.   
   >>   
   >> Much love in the LightSong Eternal,   
   >>   
   >> Michael Turner   
   >   
   > Excellent, Michael. I like this view you have. Say, the last I knew you   
   > were an Eckist who was shaking up the local Eckankar establishment in   
   > AZ.  I'd handed over responsiblity of an Eckankar newsletter to you   
   > before I left town, and eventually I left Eckankar, as well, having   
   > concluded it was not all it claimed to be. You were sort of a   
   > rock-and-roller then. (chuckle). How did you go through your   
   > transformation to leader of a spiritual group?   
   >   
   > You should have heard the comments about you by the local folks. They   
   > were shocked and in an uproar, calling Minneapolis headquarters to   
   > report your activities. How goes it? The last time we spoke we were   
   > daring to debate (as Eckankar members in a group that only whispered   
   > Gross's name at the time) the pros and cons of Darwin G. and Klemp. You   
   > were always thinking outside the box. I liked that about you.   
   >   
   > Kent A.   
   >   
      
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