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   Message 6,635 of 7,897   
   David Mitchell to Harvey   
   Re: authentic experiences?   
   28 May 05 09:27:27   
   
   From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Sat, 28 May 2005 04:12:15 +0000, Your Name Here=Harvey wrote:   
      
   > I wonder if so-called astral travelling is like some holy grail, not   
   > reachable by most, except the lucky and most persistant?   
   >   
   > Who are the ones, you believe have this ability?   
   >   
   > Remote viewers?   
   > Those who write books about doing it? eg. The oldest book is probably by   
   > the guy named Muldoon (I forget his first name) - what is strange about   
   > his experiences, though, is that he was always alone when out on his   
   > travels.   
      
   Sylvan Muldoon.   
   Why is it strange that he's alone?   
      
   > The only other person that I know of, who has reported having astral   
   > travelling abilities, of recent times - not that I know who have made this   
   > claim, or are known to have this ability, is Billy Meier. Billy Meier is   
   > interesting to look at, because there is so much to take into account   
   > about him. Don't simply read the critical claims against him, but be fair   
   > and read the positive evidence too.   
      
   The one-armed UFO guy?   
   Complete charlatan.   
   Faked his pictures, lied about it.   
      
   I wouldn't believe him if he told me the time.   
      
   > Eckankar have always made the claim that they teach it's students this   
   > ability, but I've always been cautious about their claims and literature.   
   > Any comments about them?   
      
   They're a bunch of cross-posting arseholes.   
      
   Oh, you meant the OBE claims.  No idea; but I suspect they're bogus too.   
      
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