From: kiwi@ing.notin.aus
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david@edenroad.demon.co.uk says...
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>On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:22:42 +0000, Your Name Here=Harvey wrote:
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>> I am reading into the Billy Meier material, and there is a lot of
>> information he's releasing. I don't think you should just read the
>> negative critical material only, as they tend to focus on the orthodox
>> view of regarding him as a hoax first, without giving the evidence a
>> decent look.
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>He's a liar, and a fraud.
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>Why believe _anything_ he has to say?
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>> He's not into making money from the material he releases, nor building an
>> empire of any kind. His spiritual center seems to be just that, not like
>> others of the Sali Baba variety.
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>That's "Sai Baba"
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>He's doing it for the kudos, the appreciation of gullible muppets like
>yourself.
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I did read "Light Years" about 10+ years ago and I was impressed by it.
I found it very interesting. Then later on, I paid attention to various
UFO television 'documentaries' - and they often depicted Billy Meier as
a fraud/etc. One program said he used models and bonsai trees to 'create'
those famous photographs of his. (This is using the technique of
'forced perspective'). It all sounded believable, and so I tended to
believe in this, and then disbelieve the Light Years book.
I regret that I didn't do any follow further into Billy Meier.
...
10+ years later - I find there is a lot of material about Billy Meier
accessible via file sharing networks such as eMule and Xolox.
I started checking this out, and learn about the Talmud Jmmanuel text
wwww.tjresearch.info
What is presented here, is about the same views presented in an
independent British television documentary 'Did Jesus Die?' which was
screened 3-4 years ago at Easter, here. I taped that program.
No mention was made of Billy Meier or the Talmud Jmmanuel text/etc in
this British television program.
I recall that the idea that Jesus didn't die, but was near death,
was presented in another program some years ago. An Arthur C Clarke
program? Maybe it was simply an independent program?
Also I downloaded a lecture given by Wendelle Stevens, who recounts
his early investigation into Billy Meier, it was a slideshow lecture
given at a UFO conference, that was videotaped. He recounts the whole
story about Billy Meier with Black and White (Billy Meier's earliest
UFO photographs) photographs and colour photographs. He explains
why the forced perspective technique was not used. That Billy Meier
used an Olympus 35ECR camera for those famous photographs, that the
camera was accidentally dropped, such that the focus was locked solid
at the infinity setting, and that photographs were taken in series.
Wendelle Stevens travelled to the exact locations where the photographs
were taken, saying there was no way to enable someone to hang a UFO
model in front of the camera at those locations, because of the drop
below. I am familiar with 35mm cameras of that era, when the photographs
were taken, so I believe Wendelle Stevens information is more accurate
than the claims that the photographs were faked.
I do know enough about 35mm still cameras and photography to know which
is more believable and proveable.
Billy Meier has set up a centre/retreat there - it remains just that
and nothing more. Something modest and simple.
If you read about Billy Meier - he's not into public speaking and
wanting attention for himself. He's not the type that wants fame nor
fortune. He certainly doesn't have the latter.
As for being a gullible muppet - I think that comment has revealed
who you are, and how open your mind is.
Harvey
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