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   David Mitchell to All   
   Re: Castaneda: Real or Fake   
   26 Aug 05 10:36:01   
   
   From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:48:49 +0000, LH wrote:   
      
   > "David Mitchell"  wrote in message   
   > news:pan.2005.08.24.05.50.06.983428@edenroad.demon.co.uk...   
   >>   
   >> No Lonnie, you don't "know it's real", you know that if you act as   
   >> though it's real, you feel certain things, and get certain results.   
   >   
   > How would people, who don't know what's happening, know to feel calm and   
   > centered afterwards (vs feeling abnormal), if it wasn't real?   
      
   Placebo.   
      
   I know that sounds like a cop-out; but unless you've eliminated all   
   other explanations except manipulation of their assemblage point, you   
   don't _know_ that it's the cause, and the placebo effect is much more   
   likely than something which depends on impossible physics.   
      
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