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   Quintal to Dennis   
   Re: Harold Klemp NOT a REAL Master   
   06 Oct 05 23:54:58   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.eckankar, alt.meditation.shabda, alt.revisionism   
   XPost: alt.conspiracy   
   From: xavier22@ZEGJEROGclub-internet.fr   
      
   On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:24:15 GMT, "Dennis"  wrote:   
      
   >"r_d"  wrote in message   
   >news:1124269961.749980.277050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   >> people find the masters they deserve. i know nothing about those you   
   >> have mentioned,   
   >   
   >This is curious.   To have a "Master" is to make yourself a slave.   
   >   
   >The guides or teachers I'm met say so and would never allow themselves to be   
   >thought of as a "Master".  Just one who was a little further along the path   
   >than the rest of us. (They have teachers as well.)   
   >   
   >Do you really feel the need to call another being, "Master"?   
      
   lol agreed.   
   Master does indeed mean that, etymologically and historically.   
   It means great, superior, divine. It is the same root as mage. It   
   means Lord. It is a heavy as a word can be. I dont want to mess with   
   my unconscious and use such a word. Anyone's unconscious mind will   
   perfectly get its real meaning : that one is a slave when one calls   
   someone else "master", whatever meaning one's conscious mind indulges   
   itself in giving to the word.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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