From: invalid@invalid.net   
      
   On 25 Oct 2005 15:27:14 -0700, in alt.out-of-body you wrote:   
      
   >The first time, I had *some* vision, but it   
   > was more like I was trying to see out of eyes that were squinted shut -   
   > I had a very narrow horizontal slit of vision.   
      
   I've often had visual problems, including tunnel vision, in OBEs.   
      
   > I could 'see' the   
   > outline of my non-physical body as it reached out of my physical body,   
   > a very exciting first for me.   
      
   I've seen a similar effect, but only with ghostly duplicate hands.   
      
   > So. . does anybody else have problems with seeing in the OBE state?  It   
   > was so difficult to make ANYTHING out.   
      
   Yes, in fact they can be completely black.   
      
   > I think the problem was that I   
   > was trying to see with my physical eyes, and everything just came out   
   > strange.  Does anybody have tips for this?   
      
   There are any number of suggestion tricks you can use that may help.   
   Examples include: prying open your stuck dream eyelids; putting on   
   imaginary glasses; pulling imaginary covers from your face; going into   
   the OBE version of the bathroom and washing your eyes; calling out   
   "Clarity now!"; etc.   
      
   > Another note - I purchased a salt crystal lamp for myself to keep by my   
   > bedside.  I bought it for the lovely amber light, and then found out   
   > that it had wonderful physical benefits (the negative ions it generates   
   > combat allergies, depression, and high blood pressure).  Does anyone   
   > know if it does anything to increase lucid dreams or OBE's?  Because   
   > WOW, it seems to have done that for me!! Slept with it a foot from my   
   > head for several nights, and while it was a full moon (my dreams are   
   > crazy with the waxing/full moon) I definitely noticed an effect.   
      
   I used to find that just having an ordinary nightlight on was helpful.   
   At the time my OBEs usually reflected the actual light level in the   
   room, so having some light in there made it more likely I'd be able to   
   see instead of being stuck in pitch blackness.  I'd often wake with my   
   physical eyes oriented on the lamp.   
      
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