From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:02:17 -0700, Anima Rising wrote:   
      
   > How do you explain the situation, then, of the woman who was having   
   > brain surgery and was totally monitored and they knew there was no   
   > brain activity - that she was able to report on everything that was   
   > going on and even describe in detail the instrument being used to do   
   > the surgery?   
      
   The problem with anecdotal stories like this is, well, that they're   
   anecdotal.   
      
   We have no idea whether:   
   a) The story is even true,   
   b) How the information used to "validate" the story was obtained.   
      
   Without these basic things, there's no way to sensibly comment on the   
   story.   
      
   > By the way, Ketamine is a drug that will simulate a NDE.  My sister had   
   > surgery on Ketamine and could see everyone's energy body in the room   
   > even though her eyes were closed.   
      
   Yeah, hallucinations are common. ;-)   
      
   > But does that mean that Ketamine stimulated her brain and that what she   
   > saw wasn't real?  Perhaps she was able to see "reality" when in that   
   > state?   
      
   No-one knows (although a materialistic explanation is _way_ more likely),   
   but only a rational process will ever provide anything approaching a   
   verifiable answer.   
      
   Of those, my favourite is science.   
      
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