From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:11:12 -0700, obe1990 wrote:   
      
   >   
      
   >> And yet you still believe it?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > @@@@@@@@@@ own. Neither the publisher nor the copyright holder are its authors. And   
   > they're doing the same thing, trying to find meaning and purpose and   
   > worth.>   
      
   Hmm.   From what little I've read, the book exists primarily to sell   
   itself and the course,   
      
   You're being scammed, again.   
      
   >> Well, we already know it's based on the Christian mythos, and assumes a   
   >> great deal of canon from various post-death literature.   
      
   Well, yeah.  Things like the existence of God, post-death continuation,   
   communication with "ascended masters" and so on, aren't just a _given_,   
   they're created.   
      
   The fact that the author chose to use them for his own fantasy make him   
   not only obviously wrong*; but lazy!   
      
   > @@@@@@@@@ Then science is insufficient.   
      
   You are assuming that there _is_ a meaning to life, without any evidence   
   of it, presumably just because it pains you to think otherwise.   
      
   All "science" would, rightly, say at this point is: "You prove there's a   
   meaning, and I'll have a go at finding out what it is".   
      
   > The Disappearance of the Universe   
   > and A Course in Miracles is on an entirely different plateau. While   
   > science is just splitting atoms, a modern version of banging rocks, DU and   
   > ACIM are clarifying the very purpose and meaning of atoms, and everything   
   > else.   
      
   No, it's making a whole bunch of unproven and unprovable stuff up.   
      
   >> > self-value and self-worth, and other things of this nature you can   
   >> > think of??   
   >>   
   >> What _should_ science tell us about those things?   
   >>   
   >>   
   > @@@@@@@@I suppose there is nothing it 'should' tell us about these things,   
   > but the fact that as far as I have ascertained it *has* nothing to tell us   
   > about it shows it insufficient.   
      
   Not so.  Science can tell you all about how those feelings manifest, we   
   can study their biology, psychology, sociology, and evolutionary purpose.   
   In short all of the objective things that can be known about them.   
   Eventually, we'll even know exactly how they manifest in the brain.   
      
   What more could do you possibly want?  ;-)   
      
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