From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:44:54 -0700, Anima Rising wrote:   
      
   > Well. of course, EVERYTHING is a dream even the chair you're probably   
   > sitting in or the keys your typing on.  The Universe is comprised of tiny   
   > vibrating strings and lots of void.  If we were seeing rather than   
   > dreaming, we'd all be like the phycist who lost his marbles and started   
   > crawling on the floor afraid he'd fall through the spaces.   
      
   That doesn't make it a "dream" (unless you're perverting the meaning of   
   the word neyond all reason), it's just what the universe is made of   
   (possibly).   
      
   >   
   > That's the value of OBE as I see it.  To  recognize that there is no   
   > objective reality.  That consciousness creates our hologram, or DREAM if   
   > you like.   
      
   Solipsist nonsense.   
      
   > I've never done course in miracles, it's too Christian in it's orientation   
   > for my taste, nor do I want to do coursework.  But my understanding of the   
   > Essence of the course rings true with what I know (as in gnosis - or   
   > knowledge by direct experience rather than belief, even belief in   
   > doubleblind studies and scientific method.)   
      
   Ah, so what you "know", is somehow more valid than any amount of study?   
      
   Pah!   
      
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